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Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
Hey guys I have a 306 1.4, I don't like the original air filter system. So is it better to get a induction kit or a cone filter system for a 1.4? I'm not looking at power, just looking to help the cars breathing and a little bit of a better sound.
Thanks
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Toms306 - 03-03-2014
They are the same thing... The induction kit is just cone that comes with the relevant hoses to join the cone filter to your system.
I guess you mean an uprated panel filter or a cone filter/induction kit? Personally I'd go with the induction kit on a 1.4, and infact I did, twice lol. Performance panel wont give any noticeable gains. Cone will sound awesome under load.
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 07:31 PM)Toms306 Wrote: They are the same thing... The induction kit is just cone that comes with the relevant hoses to join the cone filter to your system.
I guess you mean an uprated panel filter or a cone filter/induction kit? Personally I'd go with the induction kit on a 1.4, and infact I did, twice lol. Performance panel wont give any noticeable gains. Cone will sound awesome under load.
Awesome thanks
what kit would you recommend?
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Eeyore - 03-03-2014
Just get a cone filter and stick it on the end of the air box. Take the filter out first of course. Under £15 and works perfectly well!
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Mattcheese31 - 03-03-2014
i've got an K&N 57i induction kit made especially for the 1.4 or 1.6, had it on my old 1.6 sounds really nice, i'm breaking that car now so yours for £25 posted . . .
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 07:48 PM)SRowell Wrote: Just get a cone filter and stick it on the end of the air box. Take the filter out first of course. Under £15 and works perfectly well!
I'll have to have a look to see what I find
I did find this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-306-307-308-309-4007-AIR-FILTER-COLD-AIR-FEED-INDUCTION-KIT-2101BF-/161095200016?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Cars+Type%3A1.4%7CModel%3A306&hash=item258205ad10(03-03-2014, 07:52 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: i've got an K&N 57i induction kit made especially for the 1.4 or 1.6, had it on my old 1.6 sounds really nice, i'm breaking that car now so yours for £25 posted . . .
Do you have a pic?
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Mattcheese31 - 03-03-2014
this is the one you could own lol . .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-N-57i-Induction-Kit-57-0081-1-for-Peugeot-306-/110868431403?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Cars+Type%3A1.6%7CModel%3A306&hash=item19d046022b
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 07:56 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: this is the one you could own lol . .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-N-57i-Induction-Kit-57-0081-1-for-Peugeot-306-/110868431403?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Cars+Type%3A1.6%7CModel%3A306&hash=item19d046022b
I'll have it off you mate
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Mattcheese31 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 08:00 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote:(03-03-2014, 07:56 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: this is the one you could own lol . .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-N-57i-Induction-Kit-57-0081-1-for-Peugeot-306-/110868431403?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Cars+Type%3A1.6%7CModel%3A306&hash=item19d046022b
I'll have it off you mate
no worries, PM me your address, i'll send you my paypal and i'll post it off when i receive payment mate . .
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 08:02 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote:(03-03-2014, 08:00 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote:(03-03-2014, 07:56 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: this is the one you could own lol . .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-N-57i-Induction-Kit-57-0081-1-for-Peugeot-306-/110868431403?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Cars+Type%3A1.6%7CModel%3A306&hash=item19d046022b
I'll have it off you mate
no worries, PM me your address, i'll send you my paypal and i'll post it off when i receive payment mate . .
Done
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Toms306 - 03-03-2014
Hold up guys, the 1.4 system is not the same as the 1.6 system!
This is a 1.4 57i... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-N-57i-Induction-Kit-For-Peugeot-306-Phase-3-2000-1-4-57-0205-/300990813155?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Cars+Type%3A1.4%7CModel%3A306&hash=item46147353e3
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Mattcheese31 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 08:07 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Hold up guys, the 1.4 system is not the same as the 1.6 system!
This is a 1.4 57i... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-N-57i-Induction-Kit-For-Peugeot-306-Phase-3-2000-1-4-57-0205-/300990813155?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Cars+Type%3A1.4%7CModel%3A306&hash=item46147353e3
Hmmm but why would it be different Tom, they're practically the same engine . .
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Mattcheese31 - 03-03-2014
"Picture is purely for illustration purposes only, actual filter may differ to the one shown above."
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
So will the one matt is selling fit my 1.4?
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Mattcheese31 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 08:10 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote: So will the one matt is selling fit my 1.4?
i'll find out for sure and get back to you mate, i'm fairly certain it will but was a while ago when i bought it . .
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 08:15 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote:(03-03-2014, 08:10 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote: So will the one matt is selling fit my 1.4?
i'll find out for sure and get back to you mate, i'm fairly certain it will but was a while ago when i bought it . .
Okay mate
if it fits I'll have it off you
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Toms306 - 03-03-2014
The throttle body and airbox are different between the 1.4 and 1.6 iirc. I've got a pic of my old 1.4 with the KN 57i, but struggling to upload it atm.
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Mattcheese31 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 08:17 PM)Toms306 Wrote: The throttle body and airbox are different between the 1.4 and 1.6 iirc. I've got a pic of my old 1.4 with the KN 57i, but struggling to upload it atm.
ok, be helpful if you can cheers mate . .
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - ADV_93 - 03-03-2014
Panel filter mate.
Cone filters create hot air feeds so you lose power. The best induction for your car is the one it came with. So with a better flowing filter, it's, better.
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Toms306 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 08:18 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: Panel filter mate.
Cone filters create hot air feeds so you lose power. The best induction for your car is the one it came with. So with a better flowing filter, it's, better.
Have you actually tried it? Its a 1.4 ffs, you don't notice a lack of power, you just notice a bit of extra noise. If this was a powerful diesel for example, it'd be different...
Heres the pic, if I'm wrong then fair enough but I'm sure the kits are different
- ![[Image: 30614kn57i_zpscbbcd258.jpg]](http://s796.photobucket.com/user/Toms306_photos/media/306%20X763%20OBD/30614kn57i_zpscbbcd258.jpg.html)
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Mattcheese31 - 03-03-2014
yeah it's different to that, although i think it might still fit, looks like they redesigned it, is that the same as your engine Nathan? . . .
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - ADV_93 - 03-03-2014
If you want it for "noise" wrap tights around your throttle body.
warraya, a man or a mouse?
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 08:27 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: yeah it's different to that, although i think it might still fit, looks like they redesigned it, is that the same as your engine Nathan? . . .
This is mine, sorry for the quality it's dark out haha. It looks different to me
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Toms306 - 03-03-2014
The TB looks slightly different, but the airbox and breathers are the same still. Maybe Matt can get a pic of his to compare.
(03-03-2014, 08:38 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: If you want it for "noise" wrap tights around your throttle body.
warraya, a man or a mouse?
No, that would just be restrictive....theres a reason cones have a large surface area.
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 08:58 PM)Toms306 Wrote: The TB looks slightly different, but the airbox and breathers are the same still. Maybe Matt can get a pic of his to compare.
(03-03-2014, 08:38 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: If you want it for "noise" wrap tights around your throttle body.
warraya, a man or a mouse?
No, that would just be restrictive....theres a reason cones have a large surface area.
So if Matts Throttle Body looks like mine then the induction kit he has will fit mine?
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Toms306 - 03-03-2014
Should do but I cant guarantee that lol. You're mainly looking at the part where the airbox connects to the TB, I'm also not sure if they're the same size on the 1.4 and 1.6. It seems odd to me that K&N would sell different induction kits if the same fitted both but not impossible.
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Mattcheese31 - 03-03-2014
i'll get a pic tomorrow . .
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 03-03-2014
(03-03-2014, 09:07 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: i'll get a pic tomorrow . .
Okay thanks mate
(03-03-2014, 09:05 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Should do but I cant guarantee that lol. You're mainly looking at the part where the airbox connects to the TB, I'm also not sure if they're the same size on the 1.4 and 1.6. It seems odd to me that K&N would sell different induction kits if the same fitted both but not impossible.
Oh okay
hopefully when Matt gets the picture tomorrow we can tell if it will fit
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Rippthrough - 04-03-2014
Actually the TU's are one of the few engines that do respond well to an induction kit...
...but only because it ditches dinky little ~20mm venturi on the 1.4's that limits them to exactly 74bhp.
RE: Is it better to get an induction kit or a cone filter? - Nathan1305 - 04-03-2014
(04-03-2014, 10:18 AM)Rippthrough Wrote: Actually the TU's are one of the few engines that do respond well to an induction kit...
...but only because it ditches dinky little ~20mm venturi on the 1.4's that limits them to exactly 74bhp.
Awesome
so I should get a power improvement as well? I just hope the one Matt is selling fits mine