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the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - sleeper93 - 29-01-2014
Recently got my sedan on the road and can't help but think the pumps not set right so what's the proper way of doing it I've heard of a few ways but which one is the right way
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Tom - 29-01-2014
Boost comp screw all the way out, max fuel in? Need to be more specific really.
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Danny2009 - 29-01-2014
Why you think it's not set right lad?
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Chris_90 - 29-01-2014
Your not far from Jenks if you ask him nicely sure he will have it ripping the clutch to bits after about 5 mins
he did that to mine after I made a mess of setting pump up 
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - padge - 29-01-2014
ran fine when I had it mate.
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - sleeper93 - 30-01-2014
Just seems really laggy like its running too much fuel loads of black smoke as well
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Danny2009 - 30-01-2014
Need to learn to control it with your right foot
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Chris_90 - 30-01-2014
(30-01-2014, 08:41 PM)Danny2009 Wrote: Need to learn to control it with your right foot
This, use like half throttle slowly building up to full throttle as its spooling
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Tom - 30-01-2014
You just gotta feed it in, if you cant work that out on your own then you should give up now. < No offence intended to op, people give out that answer like its some kind of secret when really anyone can feel whats happening through the pedal and how fast your going. If its coaling loads then it proably does need tinkering with...
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Chris_90 - 30-01-2014
Do you no what td04 you put on it? Is it the smallest one or one of the bigger ones? If it's one of the bigger ones that won't help
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - padge - 31-01-2014
I told you before tom, its how these bigger "old" turbos run, you have to live with the lag lol.
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - darrenjlobb - 31-01-2014
You need a VNT
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - mr_fish - 31-01-2014
(31-01-2014, 10:40 AM)darrenjlobb Wrote: You need a VNT
This....110%....
That's if you don't want to wait for the blower to spool
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Piggy - 31-01-2014
Or a GTs to be honest...
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - padge - 31-01-2014
what piggy said, similar to vnt but without the hassle.
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Sedan Styling - 24-02-2014
Max fuel 3/4 turn in, boost compensator 1 1/4 turn.
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Dave - 24-02-2014
still hellish difference between a same size vnt and wastegate, especially if they're properly controlled. Tom (zx_volcane) has nailed it with his arduino control. You can make these diesels perform like they are fast non-turbos petrols just by having the torque so linear (I know you wouldn't want that but you get the idea) 250ftlb from the word go.
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - ADV_93 - 24-02-2014
GT22V...
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Piggy - 25-02-2014
(24-02-2014, 01:52 AM)Dave Wrote: still hellish difference between a same size vnt and wastegate, especially if they're properly controlled. Tom (zx_volcane) has nailed it with his arduino control. You can make these diesels perform like they are fast non-turbos petrols just by having the torque so linear (I know you wouldn't want that but you get the idea) 250ftlb from the word go.
Yeah...we are all just waiting for GTB turbos to drop in price tbh...
All that effort to control VNT may aswell go on an even better turbo.
GTB2260vlkr ftw
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - ADV_93 - 25-02-2014
I had a GT2359V sat at work about a month ago...
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Piggy - 25-02-2014
(25-02-2014, 05:22 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: I had a GT2359V sat at work about a month ago...
I had a GT2559v that I couldnt sell...big ass thing...
but GTB is the way forward now
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - ADV_93 - 25-02-2014
(25-02-2014, 05:22 PM)Piggy Wrote:(25-02-2014, 05:22 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: I had a GT2359V sat at work about a month ago...
I had a GT2559v that I couldnt sell...big ass thing...
but GTB is the way forward now
Aren't GTB all variable vane now?
I know the newer Mercs run GTB turbos and they go well
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Piggy - 25-02-2014
Oh yeah!!!
In lamens terms, Garrett started with "T" turbos, then "GTs", then "GT....VNT"...now the latest gen is "GTB....vlkr"
I was going compound, but Im going to save for a GTB now as they are just silly good at what they do!
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - ADV_93 - 25-02-2014
(25-02-2014, 05:36 PM)Piggy Wrote: Oh yeah!!!
In lamens terms, Garrett started with "T" turbos, then "GTs", then "GT....VNT"...now the latest gen is "GTB....vlkr"
I was going compound, but Im going to save for a GTB now as they are just silly good at what they do!
You'll have to excuse me i'm not all up to date with turbocharger codes and series mate!
They seems alright, just a lot of them come with the control for the Variable vane as part of the turbo body itself.
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Piggy - 25-02-2014
(25-02-2014, 05:50 PM)ADV_93 Wrote:(25-02-2014, 05:36 PM)Piggy Wrote: Oh yeah!!!
In lamens terms, Garrett started with "T" turbos, then "GTs", then "GT....VNT"...now the latest gen is "GTB....vlkr"
I was going compound, but Im going to save for a GTB now as they are just silly good at what they do!
You'll have to excuse me i'm not all up to date with turbocharger codes and series mate!
They seems alright, just a lot of them come with the control for the Variable vane as part of the turbo body itself.
no its ok, its a bit more complex than that but thats a general idea.
You are right though, most of the GTBs have a circuit board/actuator box on them...although could be controlled otherwise
and its very hard to find even little GTBs at less than £200...
I hunt everyother day for a sub £200 GTB2260 and not yet found one even close...most want £300-400!
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - ADV_93 - 25-02-2014
(25-02-2014, 05:56 PM)Piggy Wrote:(25-02-2014, 05:50 PM)ADV_93 Wrote:(25-02-2014, 05:36 PM)Piggy Wrote: Oh yeah!!!
In lamens terms, Garrett started with "T" turbos, then "GTs", then "GT....VNT"...now the latest gen is "GTB....vlkr"
I was going compound, but Im going to save for a GTB now as they are just silly good at what they do!
You'll have to excuse me i'm not all up to date with turbocharger codes and series mate!
They seems alright, just a lot of them come with the control for the Variable vane as part of the turbo body itself.
no its ok, its a bit more complex than that but thats a general idea.
You are right though, most of the GTBs have a circuit board/actuator box on them...although could be controlled otherwise
and its very hard to find even little GTBs at less than £200...
I hunt everyother day for a sub £200 GTB2260 and not yet found one even close...most want £300-400!
With a little bit of easy modification you could get that running off vacuum. Although i bet there's a bit more to running a VNT than just a vacuum/pressure.
We rang midland turbo, and a rebuild for the bigger GT23 was just shy of £400, that's new bearings, seals, internals etc.
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Piggy - 25-02-2014
(25-02-2014, 06:09 PM)ADV_93 Wrote:(25-02-2014, 05:56 PM)Piggy Wrote:(25-02-2014, 05:50 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: You'll have to excuse me i'm not all up to date with turbocharger codes and series mate!
They seems alright, just a lot of them come with the control for the Variable vane as part of the turbo body itself.
no its ok, its a bit more complex than that but thats a general idea.
You are right though, most of the GTBs have a circuit board/actuator box on them...although could be controlled otherwise
and its very hard to find even little GTBs at less than £200...
I hunt everyother day for a sub £200 GTB2260 and not yet found one even close...most want £300-400!
With a little bit of easy modification you could get that running off vacuum. Although i bet there's a bit more to running a VNT than just a vacuum/pressure.
We rang midland turbo, and a rebuild for the bigger GT23 was just shy of £400, that's new bearings, seals, internals etc.
ouch. Could buy 3 turbos for that price!!
yeah but the way I see it, is off a vacuum loses most of the advantages of VNT...so if you go through hassle of the VNT...set it up right like ZX_Volcane...
hats off to him!
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RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - ADV_93 - 25-02-2014
(25-02-2014, 06:12 PM)Piggy Wrote:(25-02-2014, 06:09 PM)ADV_93 Wrote:(25-02-2014, 05:56 PM)Piggy Wrote: no its ok, its a bit more complex than that but thats a general idea.
You are right though, most of the GTBs have a circuit board/actuator box on them...although could be controlled otherwise
and its very hard to find even little GTBs at less than £200...
I hunt everyother day for a sub £200 GTB2260 and not yet found one even close...most want £300-400!
With a little bit of easy modification you could get that running off vacuum. Although i bet there's a bit more to running a VNT than just a vacuum/pressure.
We rang midland turbo, and a rebuild for the bigger GT23 was just shy of £400, that's new bearings, seals, internals etc.
ouch. Could buy 3 turbos for that price!!
yeah but the way I see it, is off a vacuum loses most of the advantages of VNT...so if you go through hassle of the VNT...set it up right like ZX_Volcane...
hats off to him!
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Nearly worth as much as my car that price! I'll have to have a look at ZX_Volcane, i've heard a lot of things about his car! Really interested to see the set up!
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - Piggy - 25-02-2014
here ya go...a BARGAIN!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Garrett-GTB2260VK-Audi-A4-A5-Q5-3-0-TDI-turbocharger-turbolader-059145722S-turbo-/230809031419?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bd4a52fb
RE: the PROPPER way of setting a bosch pump ? - ADV_93 - 25-02-2014
(25-02-2014, 07:19 PM)Piggy Wrote: here ya go...a BARGAIN!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Garrett-GTB2260VK-Audi-A4-A5-Q5-3-0-TDI-turbocharger-turbolader-059145722S-turbo-/230809031419?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bd4a52fb
Nearly £850 FOR A TURBO. If you have the motivation and the money to throw at it, why not.
Not sure that turbo would be big enough for my M104...