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HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
a picture says a thousand words...so heres one:
![[Image: 20130908_162105_zpsd02728b8.jpg]](http://s92.photobucket.com/user/Piggy1987_2006/media/20130908_162105_zpsd02728b8.jpg.html)
it pressurises in seconds, take cap off and it bubbles like a fizzy drink constantly.
someone show me a high cliff.
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Anton - 08-09-2013
Hmmmm not good. Did you do the HG or just drop the lump in?
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
full rebuild, top end anyway.
duno if trying a retorque is worthwhile?
or just ring the scrap yard to come get this heap of crap
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - martyn92 - 08-09-2013
No way !
really bad news. What torque settings did you use?
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
ones stated for the engine!
ozone rekons big airlock...im not convinced...but will need to try I suppose
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - martyn92 - 08-09-2013
You have the phase1 rad have you tried bleeding it with a header tank?
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
coke bottle...yeah
ive never seen bubbling like that though with an air lock
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Anton - 08-09-2013
Bleed it properly and then see what it does...
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
bubbling like every other HG I seen go.
Head off tomorrow. At least its all been done recently. But I am very upset to say the least
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - darrenjlobb - 08-09-2013
HG,
If a cars running fine, and suddently dicked after abuse, its always a bigger issue than an airlock, you can try believeing its the stat / airlock / water pump, but 99.9% of the time, it boils down to the HG in the end.
Such a shame given the work, its likely lifted the head, torquing it again may fix it short term...but studs probs arnt up to it...
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
yeah I though HG immediately.
But ozone, I think trying to be nice, was trying to persuade me it was just an airlock.
Ordering new HG and bolts now
oh well. life sucks
(08-09-2013, 08:43 PM)darrenjlobb Wrote: If a cars running fine, and suddently dicked after abuse,
I hadnt even driven it yet!!!
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - cwspellowe - 08-09-2013
Without sounding patronising.. you did remove the head properly, get it skimmed etc and completely clean the block before assembling it?
Can't think of any reason why a properly rebuilt engine would do this
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
(08-09-2013, 08:54 PM)cwspellowe Wrote: Without sounding patronising.. you did remove the head properly, get it skimmed etc and completely clean the block before assembling it?
Can't think of any reason why a properly rebuilt engine would do this
dont abuse me...
I didnt skim it or test it. /fail.
I fail.
I'm a dumbass.
Couldnt see a reason at the time. Cant think now why i didnt though.
If I was back in Hereford I would have, only coz I could have got it done for basically a pack of beers. But Im lost round here...guna make calls tomorrow
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - cwspellowe - 08-09-2013
Meh, i can't judge. I did the exact same thing with the HG change last year, we all know what happened on the way to FCS.
TBH now, unless i'm 100% confident on history of these engines, i'd always get a head skimmed before fitting.
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
(08-09-2013, 08:59 PM)cwspellowe Wrote: Meh, i can't judge. I did the exact same thing with the HG change last year, we all know what happened on the way to FCS.
TBH now, unless i'm 100% confident on history of these engines, i'd always get a head skimmed before fitting.
I will too now
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - strictly_perv - 08-09-2013
Why don't you just pressure test each cylinder first? You can get a cranking tester for like £15
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
but I could do that and the odds are very high that its HG...so I may aswell save the money for skim/test or hg/bolts
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Dave - 08-09-2013
No problem there just drash on like a boss :p 3,000 miles on I still poo coolant everywhere but never misses a beat haha
All seriousness, you know where you went wrong here
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Tom - 08-09-2013
That really sucks man, you just got to try and imagine how epic it will be when its done just keep picturing it and you'll get there.
RE: HUGE head/block failure on the 2.1 :( - Piggy - 08-09-2013
thanks guys.
this needs to be on the road...work=money!!