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Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 19-08-2013

   
just changing my wishbones again and in a nut shell i've sheared the small bolt off that screws into the P bush . . . .guess i could drill it and tap another bolt in if need be but i'm strapped for time a bit . . .

anyway do we think it'll live without it? doesn't seem to do much . .

pic just for reference it's the upper bolt hole in the picture, new wishbone is on the car now . .


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Grant - 19-08-2013

Absolutely not.
Prevents axial movement of the rear bush around the larger bolt.


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Rippthrough - 19-08-2013

Yep, you need that one.


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 19-08-2013

drill and tap another one then i guess . . .Sad . .why do i always break something? . .lol


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - 306Dan - 19-08-2013

How far away from Gainsborough are you?? I have 2 new p bush's you can have if you want them


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 19-08-2013

(19-08-2013, 03:31 PM)306Dan Wrote: How far away from Gainsborough are you?? I have 2 new p bush's you can have if you want them

ahh cheers mate but P bushes are cheep enough, i just wanted to avoid the hassle of changing them as i hate that job, bought full arms this time . . Sad

need to get sorted this week too as i'm off down Devon a week today . . .


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - 306Dan - 19-08-2013

Not a problem, I know how annoying p bush's are


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 19-08-2013

(19-08-2013, 03:45 PM)306Dan Wrote: Not a problem, I know how annoying p bush's are

yeah did them last year but it took me all fcuking day lol . . . . .thought narr this time and bought full arms . .Smile


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Rippthrough - 19-08-2013

If you slip up with drilling/tapping it, tap it out to M10 and fit an M10 bolt instead, the subframe hole is large enough for one, as that's what I use on my wishbone mounts.


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 19-08-2013

(19-08-2013, 04:05 PM)Rippthrough Wrote: If you slip up with drilling/tapping it, tap it out to M10 and fit an M10 bolt instead, the subframe hole is large enough for one, as that's what I use on my wishbone mounts.

what all the way through the P bush you mean? . . .


sorry . . forget that i know what you mean . . .Smile

do you know what size bolt it's supposed to take Phil?


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Jenkosowls - 19-08-2013

M8x1.25 most likely I don't think there a fine thread


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - 306Dan - 19-08-2013

Looked at the new ones I have here its m8x1.25 like Jenk said


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 19-08-2013

(19-08-2013, 05:14 PM)306Dan Wrote: Looked at the new ones I have here its m8x1.25 like Jenk said

beauty . . how long mate? . . .Smile


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - 306Dan - 19-08-2013

normal bolts are 15mm iirc the threads on these new bushes go 12mm in plus 3-4mm for the sub frame


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 19-08-2013

(19-08-2013, 05:27 PM)306Dan Wrote: normal bolts are 15mm iirc the threads on these new bushes go 12mm in plus 3-4mm for the sub frame

legend . . .now, wonder where i can get a couple tomorrow? . . . .Dodgy


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - 306Dan - 19-08-2013

most motor factors have random bolts in boxs and m8x1.25 is quite a common size, failing that if your near a scrap yard a 306 shock top mount bolt is the right size


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Jenkosowls - 19-08-2013

Scrap yard freebies


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 19-08-2013

cheers lads . . . why is nothing ever simple? lol


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Rippthrough - 19-08-2013

(19-08-2013, 05:31 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote:
(19-08-2013, 05:27 PM)306Dan Wrote: normal bolts are 15mm iirc the threads on these new bushes go 12mm in plus 3-4mm for the sub frame

legend . . .now, wonder where i can get a couple tomorrow? . . . .Dodgy

http://www.screwfix.com/p/bzp-setscrews-m8-x-16-pack-of-100/52761?_requestid=114938


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 19-08-2013

(19-08-2013, 08:58 PM)Rippthrough Wrote:
(19-08-2013, 05:31 PM)Mattcheese31 Wrote:
(19-08-2013, 05:27 PM)306Dan Wrote: normal bolts are 15mm iirc the threads on these new bushes go 12mm in plus 3-4mm for the sub frame

legend . . .now, wonder where i can get a couple tomorrow? . . . .Dodgy

http://www.screwfix.com/p/bzp-setscrews-m8-x-16-pack-of-100/52761?_requestid=114938

thanks Phil, i haven't got a tap and die set or for that matter have i ever tapped a hole (giggady), so . .gonna remove wishbone tomorrow and hope there's a bit sticking out so i can remove it . . . . Undecided


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Rippthrough - 20-08-2013

Yer hamfisted bugger.


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Tom - 20-08-2013

How did you do them so tight?! I done mine with a heavey handed 1/2inch ratchet and they didnt break!


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 20-08-2013

(20-08-2013, 01:47 PM)Rippthrough Wrote: Yer hamfisted bugger.
result today . . . . managed to stake the remainder out with a screwdriver, found a suitable bolt off an old Bosch pump and fitted it . . . .not so good result, just finishing other side now and they've given me an 18mm balljoint wrongly and it's riveted on ffs . . .phoned parts place now and they're phoning me back if they've got one in stock . . Sad
(20-08-2013, 01:51 PM)Tom Wrote: How did you do them so tight?! I done mine with a heavey handed 1/2inch ratchet and they didnt break!


i'm hard as nails and twice as sharp mate lol . . . it's my favourite trick and it was only one handed with a 1/4 drive . .Big Grin


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Rippthrough - 20-08-2013

Didn't forget the washer did you?
If they bottom out in the thread they'll snap very easily.


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 20-08-2013

(20-08-2013, 02:55 PM)Rippthrough Wrote: Didn't forget the washer did you?
If they bottom out in the thread they'll snap very easily.

no . . . .tbf it's an 18 year old bolt, it's had a decent life . .Smile


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Rippthrough - 20-08-2013

Used your right hand instead of your left?
Wink


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 20-08-2013

(20-08-2013, 03:51 PM)Rippthrough Wrote: Used your right hand instead of your left?
Wink

yes yes yes . . and you know what an amazing wanker i am . . lol


RE: Important! wishbone question please look . - Mattcheese31 - 20-08-2013

finally, 15 mile round trip to exchange the part and just finished, i know by now these things are rarely smooth sailing lol . . . . .


i ought to write a guide now as i'm the fcuking wishbone master . . .all i want now though is beer . .cold cold beer . .lol

i will offer one tip though, when trying to put the big bolt through the P bush and the antiroll bar mount, undo both the droplinks, it's nearly impossible if you don't . . Smile