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nad to d turbo. - toughmat - 27-06-2013

Looking to change a few things this yeat and one of the mains are the engine.
I got a phase 3 nad and want to drop in a xud.
Question is what is needed apart from engine and gearbox????

Thanks Matt


RE: nad to d turbo. - Piggy - 27-06-2013

thats it really.

if you get a dturbo lump with all the manifolds etc, all should be well.

would be worth fitting a fmic while you at it though!


RE: nad to d turbo. - toughmat - 27-06-2013

So wpuld i need wiring ??


RE: nad to d turbo. - Piggy - 27-06-2013

not if I recall, looms are same. I cant see what would be different with the loom.

you only need a couple of wires for a xud to run!


RE: nad to d turbo. - ginge191 - 27-06-2013

Phase 3 NAD? Is this not a NAD hdi?
Looms differ perhaps?


RE: nad to d turbo. - toughmat - 27-06-2013

Never heard of a nad hdi. Ill take a poc and will post tomorroq


RE: nad to d turbo. - Piggy - 28-06-2013

ginge....stop trolling. nad hdi!? since when?!

the phase 3 nad is a xud!!


RE: nad to d turbo. - ginge191 - 28-06-2013

Serious, no trolling..

I've never touched a phase 3. Nor have I touched a hdi. When I bought mine I was adverts for
"Hdi non turbo".
I couldn't be bothered looking into it.
They're the LX models?


RE: nad to d turbo. - mr_fish - 28-06-2013

thought the 1.9 NAD was a DW8?


RE: nad to d turbo. - ginge191 - 28-06-2013

wikipedia Wrote:Some base models made use of the DW8 normally aspirated diesel engine.


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RE: nad to d turbo. - Piggy - 28-06-2013

may have a newer block. buts it identical to look at to the early xud nads and has indirect injection


RE: nad to d turbo. - baz306 - 28-06-2013

its a dw8 i have am going to be doing the same thing soon aswell


RE: nad to d turbo. - Piggy - 28-06-2013

dw8 block...im sure my ph1 dturbo block is a dw8


RE: nad to d turbo. - Mattcheese31 - 28-06-2013

(28-06-2013, 05:23 PM)Piggy Wrote: dw8 block...im sure my ph1 dturbo block is a dw8

do you mean D8a? . . .


RE: nad to d turbo. - toughmat - 29-06-2013

Is there some sort of guide on doing a swap??


RE: nad to d turbo. - pugtk - 30-06-2013

phase 3 is dw8, which i think is semi ecu, conversion should be straight forward


RE: nad to d turbo. - darrenjlobb - 30-06-2013

Mark (mr_fish) is right, the ph3 nads are dw8 based IDI, most are fitted with semi ecu lucas injection (ecu controls egr, injection timing, and idle)


nad to d turbo. - Sambarker - 30-06-2013

You will need the td front pipe and might be an idea to get bonnet liner if your keeping it tmic


RE: nad to d turbo. - Chris - 30-06-2013

IMO I'd recommend doing a hdi swap not a XUD.
You'll need the engine,engine loom, engine bay loom, ecu with imob items and preferably the dials too, to do the swap but thats it, probably take a extra 2 hours to change the bay loom but well worth it imo


RE: nad to d turbo. - Piggy - 30-06-2013

my mates gota 51 plate nad....bosch pump, no ecu control at all


nad to d turbo. - Sambarker - 30-06-2013

(30-06-2013, 01:04 PM)Chris Wrote: IMO I'd recommend doing a hdi swap not a XUD.
You'll need the engine,engine loom, engine bay loom, ecu with imob items and preferably the dials too, to do the swap but thats it, probably take a extra 2 hours to change the bay loom but well worth it imo

Why would you need immobiliser stuff? Ruan went from a ph3 gti6 to a dt and that was straight forward enough so going ph3 nad to dt would surely be even easier


RE: nad to d turbo. - lolsteve - 30-06-2013

Aren't the dw8 pretty poor engines?
Would it be the same principle as the hdi -> xud conversions people have been doing recently


RE: nad to d turbo. - toughmat - 01-07-2013

Has anybody done this swap before


RE: nad to d turbo. - Piggy - 01-07-2013

Im planning on it with my mates nad pretty soon, and I check it all out and it looks easy peasy.

xuds run on a few wires compared to the rats nest on a hdi


RE: nad to d turbo. - toughmat - 01-07-2013

Cool. Because i keep on getting mixes reviews and i dont want to buy a engine then being told NO


RE: nad to d turbo. - ginge191 - 01-07-2013

(01-07-2013, 06:46 AM)toughmat Wrote: Cool. Because i keep on getting mixes reviews and i dont want to buy a engine then being told NO

You'll always get mixed reviews with XUD/HDi engines; it's personal preference.

Personally, i prefer XUD's for the simplicity and lack of electrics, but people like Chris, prefer HDi's for the simplicity of "plug and play" tunability.


RE: nad to d turbo. - Piggy - 01-07-2013

Xud engine and box all as one, get the pipework etc too..when I looked at my mates nad it looked like no changes to loom were needed.

while you there you have two options, change to FMIC or if sticking with TMIC then the bonnet soundproofing/TMIC vent will be needed too

no dials to change etc


RE: nad to d turbo. - toughmat - 01-07-2013

What is a decent price for a engine and gearbox xud of course


RE: nad to d turbo. - Piggy - 01-07-2013

100-150 if comes with all ancilliaries


RE: nad to d turbo. - toughmat - 01-07-2013

Ok thanks for the info. Just need a hand fitting one now lol