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Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - nlp77 - 18-06-2013
Hello, I am new to forum. I will introduce my little 306. I'm french. I translated with google so sorry for the mistakes lol.
So my car is a business with a 306 2.1TD engine turbo pump bosch garet.
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RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Piggy - 18-06-2013
awesome!
another 2.1!!!
these seem much more common abroad!
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Matt - 18-06-2013
welcome along mate, any under bonnet pics?
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Dum-Dum - 18-06-2013
AWESOME!
Needs more boost if your covering the back in soot though.
Engine pictures please
Oh and your English is better than my french so don't worry.
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - nlp77 - 18-06-2013
Yes I'll give you pictures of the engine tonight. I was not quite understood your messages, but hey it does not matter lol. For motor configue is:
Turbo 1.5b origin
Bosch pump changed
Exchanger in frontage
306td box
Home line diameter 60
I want a meter gro turbo without much mod. You advise me?
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Piggy - 18-06-2013
I think only way to upgrade your turbo is to go gearbox mounted...theres almost no room already for the standard turbo!
have you thought about a hdi gearbox?!
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - nlp77 - 18-06-2013
So I can not install another turbo?
Yes it was me saying that hdi box will be better (longer). I'll find one.
These are the photos:
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RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - ozonehostile - 18-06-2013
how much clearance is there between the top of the engine and the bonnet?
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Piggy - 18-06-2013
you can fit another turbo...but cant increase in size much...
perhaps a more efficient one like a gt1752
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Dum-Dum - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 06:55 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: how much clearance is there between the top of the engine and the bonnet?
He has the metal inlet not plastic so has more clearance
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Piggy - 18-06-2013
^^^ they look identical!?
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - ozonehostile - 18-06-2013
ah good point, the plastic one is actually fairly chunky looking at it now
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Jimbo - 18-06-2013
Black bumpers are win against the white strangely
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - nlp77 - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 06:55 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: how much clearance is there between the top of the engine and the bonnet?
It barely goes. There's 1-2 cm.
(18-06-2013, 07:00 PM)Piggy Wrote: you can fit another turbo...but cant increase in size much...
perhaps a more efficient one like a gt1752
Ok thank you for the info. I will anyway try to install a TD04.
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Piggy - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 08:32 PM)nlp77 Wrote:(18-06-2013, 07:00 PM)Piggy Wrote: you can fit another turbo...but cant increase in size much...
perhaps a more efficient one like a gt1752
Ok thank you for the info. I will anyway try to install a TD04.
thing is with the td04, it likes big end revs....really works 3500+...but the 2.1 doesnt like the high end rpm like the xud9, mainly due to the rockers it has!
you will find a gt1752 or similar will give you the needed mid range punch!
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Midnightclub - 18-06-2013
That said.. there was that 200+hp 2.1 that revved to 6k+ no problem in the couch a little while back
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Piggy - 19-06-2013
yeah I remember that...
just realised nlp77 that your steering joint will be by the gearbox....which gives you more room behind the engine for a turbo than us here with right hand drive...
so a bigger turbo should fit behind there!
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - ozonehostile - 19-06-2013
Although saying that, the standard turbo on an xud11 is quite a tight fit in a 306 bay.....
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Piggy - 19-06-2013
....yeah but theres no room to go down or move it etc coz of the steering rack and UJ.....he doesnt have that issue
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - nlp77 - 19-06-2013
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thing is with the td04, it likes big end revs....really works 3500+...but the 2.1 doesnt like the high end rpm like the xud9, mainly due to the rockers it has!
you will find a gt1752 or similar will give you the needed mid range punch!
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Ok, thank you very much for the info, that's nice. Will you give me the references of the turbo that will adapt better to my engine?
(19-06-2013, 06:19 AM)Piggy Wrote: yeah I remember that...
just realised nlp77 that your steering joint will be by the gearbox....which gives you more room behind the engine for a turbo than us here with right hand drive...
so a bigger turbo should fit behind there!
Yes we were more space than you, but we must anyway cut a cross on the case for the original trubo past.
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - nlp77 - 27-11-2013
Here is my new circuit suralimation turbo.
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Next stage head of pump 12 and t3 turbo.
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - londondan86 - 27-11-2013
Nice motor there and welcome to the club
Pipe routing is similar to mine, going past the chassis leg, makes it look much tidier.
I personally prefer the d turbo front end though rather than the black bumpers.
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Jenkosowls - 27-11-2013
Looks to be a serious pov spec diesel like 1993 1994 spec maybe even a straight diesel previously.
RE: Xad 2.1l td12 "made in france" - Piggy - 27-11-2013
for ref Im now running a gearbox mounted GT2056s...
it is a perfect match imo for the 2.1
currently close to 5second 30-70 in 3rd with hdi box and its spinning up the wheels in 3rd gear now in the damp...and thats just at 1.3bar