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Practical Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - strictly_perv - 26-05-2013
I recently bought the PPC mag and noticed they had a feature on tuning the 306 and in that they mentioned the XUD and making the most of it.
They mentioned fitting a hybrid turbo, transit pump head, Xsantia injectors, bigger bore fuel lines and banjo's and fitting an electronic lift pump to kick in when on boost to supply extra fuel.
Quite an interesting read for you 306 owners as I was expecting it to be quite inaccurate when it came to the XUD part.
I am curious about this inline pump though
discuss.....
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Jenkosowls - 26-05-2013
From what iv read before the inline pump isnt beneficial and be more of problem than a solution
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - the milkman - 26-05-2013
Xsantia injectors are the same as pug ones aren't they?
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Poodle - 26-05-2013
Their HDi info was shite though. Really disappointed tbh, whoever wrote it didn't have a clue.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Jenkosowls - 26-05-2013
Haven't read the mag but the info is probably just a 5 minute quick google search copy and paste jobbie.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Ricky - 26-05-2013
You would need to run a swirl pot with an inline/lift pump.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - chrisrallye - 26-05-2013
Its my car in some of them pictures.
Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Sambarker - 27-05-2013
The fact that jammapic is/was on the books there maybe the source of their info
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Dum-Dum - 27-05-2013
Me and poodle discussed it at length the day the mag came out and there is many glaring mistakes and omissions. It was written by pug1off so read into that what you will.
Would of been written better if JP had done it.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Ruan - 27-05-2013
Says a lot if it's Pug1Off - they know their stuff about certian areas, but IMHO they seem to produce information which is often incorrect...
Understandably they have a business to run, but will often make a problem seem more complex than it actually is if they can solve it for a fee...
Also a lift pump when on boost to increase on boost fuelling rate? LOL - that's so wrong it's unreal. The Transit head thing is purely copied from what people have said and they've heard, Xantia injectors are identical and it's well known that Indirect Injection injectors are NOT of restriction, there's many other issues to overcome first which a restriction on injection length.
Typical of people applying Direct Injection tuning techniques to IDI engines.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - ozonehostile - 27-05-2013
surprised they said nothing about remapping xud's or something along those lines
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Chris_90 - 27-05-2013
(27-05-2013, 12:28 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: surprised they said nothing about remapping xud's or something along those lines
^^^ this wasnt a black box mentioned ???
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Ruan - 27-05-2013
Or a box to increase injection pressure, that's the usual one.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - chrisrallye - 27-05-2013
Pug1off did not write it all.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Dum-Dum - 27-05-2013
^^ They are the only ones credited with it so it looks bad on them.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - chrisrallye - 27-05-2013
Well they r not they only ones in the mag i got.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Dum-Dum - 27-05-2013
Really, I must of misread it. Who else is credited?
Edit: found it, pug sport racing, who are they then?
I might actually write to the mag and point out the inaccuracies and omissions (ive been talking about this for a month now and not got round to it lol)
Re: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Eskiiboi - 27-05-2013
Pugsport Racing is Carl Chambers AFAIK?
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - declantg - 27-05-2013
Yeah that's Carl,
Fairly local to me, SRowell and Toms306
LINK
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Poodle - 28-05-2013
Haha so two so-called professionals contributed to that disaster? Oh dear..
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - darrenjlobb - 28-05-2013
Neither of those people are "so called professionals" in diesel though... so not suprising at all, but why they were used to write it who knows.
RE: Practicle Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Eeyore - 28-05-2013
Practical*
RE: Practical Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - jammapic - 16-06-2013
Was I not credited? I gave James Winstanley an hour of my time on the phone and talked him through a load of XUD stuff... some other thing I didn't talk about seem to have made it into the XUD section though, and that's just wrong...
RE: Practical Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - silverzx - 16-06-2013
Meh, who cares, we all know the truth of the XUD's.
Boring out banjo's and bigger fuel lines? Really...?
RE: Practical Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - jammapic - 16-06-2013
I did it, it seemed to work ok!
RE: Practical Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - Poodle - 16-06-2013
(16-06-2013, 12:28 PM)silverzx Wrote: Meh, who cares, we all know the truth of the XUD's.
Boring out banjo's and bigger fuel lines? Really...?
That would mean less restriction, yeah.
RE: Practical Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - cwspellowe - 16-06-2013
(16-06-2013, 12:28 PM)silverzx Wrote: Meh, who cares, we all know the truth of the XUD's.
Boring out banjo's and bigger fuel lines? Really...?
^^this
Maybe at one point yeah, something worth looking at, can't say many people have reached the point the fuel lines are a restriction
RE: Practical Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - silverzx - 16-06-2013
(16-06-2013, 01:37 PM)cwspellowe Wrote: ^^this
Maybe at one point yeah, something worth looking at, can't say many people have reached the point the fuel lines are a restriction
This is what I was thinking, surely the standard lines are fine..
RE: Practical Performance Car 306 'tuning' feature - darrenjlobb - 16-06-2013
Standard lines are very restrictive, everything from the outlets on the tank pickup, through the lines, filter, and inlet trace in a VE body is very restrictive, this is why IP drops under high rpm / high power cars, its just not noticed as people dont drive them hard to enough on the road to emtpy the pump body enough to cause a "conk out" but it still dramatically effects your timing curve / power delivery.