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MOT fail time... - lh_4827 - 06-02-2012
Any takers on what she will fail on?
i'm guessing, play in the rear beam, no speedo, missing wheel bolt in front wheel and radiator secured with cable ties.. oh and HID's and airbag light on.
ive put it through so early in the month so i have got some forewarning to what i need to fix before the end of the month..
Re: MOT fail time... - 4WayDiablo - 06-02-2012
haha and the classic rear brake imbalance and recording little or no effort
Re: MOT fail time... - lh_4827 - 06-02-2012
I had that last year too lol, but only as an advisory...
MOT fail time... - Jonny b - 06-02-2012
How is it going to fail on speedo? It don't go anywhere
Re: MOT fail time... - lh_4827 - 06-02-2012
The Speedo doesn't move... At all. The tach screw in the box is f*cked. Picking one up from pug on weds.
Re: MOT fail time... - lh_4827 - 06-02-2012
hmm.. looking around its not part of the MOT, but it is illegal to drive without a working Speedo..
Re: MOT fail time... - Foxy-jim - 07-02-2012
Good luck!
Re: MOT fail time... - Megamonkey - 07-02-2012
Not sure about the new MOT standards but my mate had a 206 where the speedo didn't work for 3 years! and still got through (he used a satnav as his speedo)
Re: MOT fail time... - Foxy-jim - 07-02-2012
They are more accurate then normal speedos anyway!
Re: MOT fail time... - hbomb1905 - 07-02-2012
shouldnt fail on airbag light, hids or radiator tbh
Re: MOT fail time... - Niall - 07-02-2012
It will fail on the airbag light. Since the new year, any lights on the dash are a failure. Even a EML! So get the airbag light sorted first.
Oh and be careful driving it after you've had it mot'd because I know most people say 'it's ok, I still have a month' but I've heard rumours that since they brought in the new certificates, this no longer applies. If its failed, all the time left on the old certificate is void.
Re: MOT fail time... - hbomb1905 - 07-02-2012
NiallHarper Wrote:It will fail on the airbag light. Since the new year, any lights on the dash are a failure. Even a EML! So get the airbag light sorted first.
Shit. 50% of the 306s left in existence will meet their demise in 2012 then haha
Re: MOT fail time... - lh_4827 - 07-02-2012
Airbag light was advisory on this years regs, until April 1st. Same for hids.
Failed on handbrake efficiency below 10% headlights aimed too high and missing wheel bolt. Advisory for the car seat in the rear, as he couldn't test the seatbelt, loose wiring for the hid's and loose wiring on fogs where a wire got snagged.
Re: MOT fail time... - lh_4827 - 07-02-2012
Interestingly, it didn't fail on the decat exhaust either...
Re: MOT fail time... - burnmw - 07-02-2012
NiallHarper Wrote:It will fail on the airbag light. Since the new year, any lights on the dash are a failure. Even a EML! So get the airbag light sorted first.
Oh and be careful driving it after you've had it mot'd because I know most people say 'it's ok, I still have a month' but I've heard rumours that since they brought in the new certificates, this no longer applies. If its failed, all the time left on the old certificate is void.
This. And it has always been the case. Just because it did have a valid MOT, the new one surpasses it, even if it is a failure.
Re: MOT fail time... - Toms306 - 07-02-2012
Hope you dont have too many hills near you....10% handbrake is terrible lol.
Also it WILL NOT fail a decat on a diesel...as long as the smoke test passes.
Re: MOT fail time... - burnmw - 07-02-2012
burnmw Wrote:This. And it has always been the case. Just because it did have a valid MOT, the new one surpasses it, even if it is a failure.
Let me explain that a bit further...
http://www.confused.com/news-views/blog ... failed-mot
So I wasn't quite right, it's not a failure but if you get stopped by the police/have an accident then they (and your insurers) will come down hard on you for driving a known defective vehicle.
Re: MOT fail time... - Toms306 - 07-02-2012
burnmw Wrote:burnmw Wrote:This. And it has always been the case. Just because it did have a valid MOT, the new one surpasses it, even if it is a failure.
Let me explain that a bit further...
http://www.confused.com/news-views/blog ... failed-mot
So I wasn't quite right, it's not a failure but if you get stopped by the police/have an accident then they (and your insurers) will come down hard on you for driving a known defective vehicle.
Was just about to say this!! Good job this forum shows any posts when you hit submit.
Re: MOT fail time... - burnmw - 07-02-2012
Toms306 Wrote:Was just about to say this!! Good job this forum shows any posts when you hit submit.
Worried that you might look more stupid than usual?
Re: MOT fail time... - Toms306 - 07-02-2012
burnmw Wrote:Toms306 Wrote:Was just about to say this!! Good job this forum shows any posts when you hit submit.
Worried that you might look more stupid than usual?
Well if I'm honest I doubted myself as you're usually right!!
But this time I was sure as I specifically asked about driving on a fail sheet when I was helping with MOTs at W/E last month.
Re: MOT fail time... - lh_4827 - 07-02-2012
i spoke to someone from VOSA about the MOT fail overwriting the existing pass and he said it is bullshit, but you will get ass f*cked over it if you have a crash.
and i thought the new rules with regards to the cat being removed applied to diesels too, even though they are a DPF.. its a bit of the exhaust thats been removed, therefore still falls into the same a=category. i dounno, but i saw some numpty on here of pugnet saying his had failed on a de-dpf and i was just setting the record straight..
Re: MOT fail time... - Toms306 - 07-02-2012
Lots of numptys about mate....but the 'has to have cat' rule only applies to cars needing an emmisions test....I.e petrols.
Re: MOT fail time... - lh_4827 - 07-02-2012
yes, i know that, and i know its not a cat, but under the new rules, even if a car passes its emissions test, if it has no cat, or the cat has been removed, it will fail.
someone on here reckoned their DT failed on having no DPF, as it was a component of the exhaust that was removed.
Re: MOT fail time... - Toms306 - 07-02-2012
A dt doesn't have a dpf, nor does a 306 hdi. The diesels DO NOT needs cats for the not lol, trust me!
Re: MOT fail time... - Foxy-jim - 07-02-2012
Dts do have particulate filter dot they?!
Re: MOT fail time... - Niall - 07-02-2012
It doesn't have to have a cat at all. It just has to meet the emissions levels. But you show me a car that will easily meet the emissions levels with a straight through (and I'm not talking about a MOT with our friendly tester....)
Re: MOT fail time... - lh_4827 - 07-02-2012
Toms306 Wrote:A dt doesn't have a dpf, nor does a 306 hdi. The diesels DO NOT needs cats for the not lol, trust me!
look, i know this, and i knew this for the last 2 MOT's, but some fuckwit said he failed, so i was setting the record straight. i have also seen alot of questions around the same subject on other forums...
Re: MOT fail time... - Toms306 - 08-02-2012
Foxy-jim Wrote:Dts do have particulate filter dot they?!
Older ones have nothing, newer ones have cats not dpfs, a dpf is a huge funnel shaped thing stuck in the exhaust, you'd definitely see if it had one.
Re: MOT fail time... - Toms306 - 08-02-2012
NiallHarper Wrote:It doesn't have to have a cat at all. It just has to meet the emissions levels. But you show me a car that will easily meet the emissions levels with a straight through (and I'm not talking about a MOT with our friendly tester....)
Not quite right mate, the new regs say that petrols will fail with a decat, regardless of emmisions.