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HDi engine into cabby? - Dum-Dum - 25-04-2013
Anyone know how compatible the electrics would be if I were to swap a 99 hdi lump with its engine loom connecting to the car loom of my 98 xsi cabby at the near side front chassis leg and HDI dials plugged in?
Would it start, would I need the immobiliser mapped out the ecu?
Any other issues I wont of thought of?
HDi engine into cabby? - Jonny b - 25-04-2013
Yep 1 issue
It's a diseasel!! Lol
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Jonny81191 - 25-04-2013
You'll scrap it before you do it?
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Chris - 25-04-2013
Sell it, buy a ph3 then just swap the bay loom over.
Orr you could look for one of those very rare ph2 Hdis and have the bay loom from that.
Other option is ph3 loom the whole car, or try and work the wiring out in the multi plug under the wiper motor (pin position is different from ph2-3) main things are lights and speedo, everything else will work AFAIK
For the ecu, ignition on in the donor car then unplug the ecu, remove the box on the ph2 and no imob issues.
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Dum-Dum - 25-04-2013
Sorry Chris, which box on the ph2 do you remove?
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Niall - 25-04-2013
Scrap it. You will do soon anyway so might as well before you spend a load of money.
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Chris - 25-04-2013
one under the dash, same place as the ph3 ones
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Niall - 25-04-2013
Theoretically speaking, the only issue you may have is the glow plug light (do HDis have a glowplug light? Even still, they would only come on for a split second right?)
The body loom is basically the same. On ph3s and 2s, the clocks are interchangeable and fully work. As chris says, you may have to swap the bsi with the one that comes with the ecu.
So you need ECU, BSI and keys all from the same car. Oh and the vin incase you ever need to get your key code.
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Chris - 25-04-2013
ph2 and 3 looms are completely different Niall, the dials are interchangeable, but thats pretty much about it.
Imob and locking are different 100% so you cant just drop the ph3 stuff in.
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Niall - 25-04-2013
(25-04-2013, 07:19 PM)Chris Wrote: ph2 and 3 looms are completely different Niall, the dials are interchangeable, but thats pretty much about it.
Imob and locking are different 100% so you cant just drop the ph3 stuff in.
In what way? The only ones that are different are the early ph2s where they dont have a bsi and have a locking unit behind the rear door card on a 3dr
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - HDIkyle - 25-04-2013
The BSI connections are different between Phase 2 and 3. I had this problem when fitting a phase 2 gti engine to a phase 3 shell. Had to get the ECU unlocked and cut 3 wires from the engine loom. I would think it would work the same going from petrol to diesel however
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Chris - 25-04-2013
All ph2's are like that, none have the bsi unit like the ph3s
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Niall - 25-04-2013
(25-04-2013, 07:33 PM)Chris Wrote: All ph2's are like that, none have the bsi unit like the ph3s
Ive seen them in ph2s under the dash but then again they could of been 2.5s and god only knows what parts went into them. Even still, if he has to do a full loom change, its hardly difficult tbh.
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Dum-Dum - 25-04-2013
I have a feeling mine should have a bsI and you say about interchangeable of looms but decs ph2 engine loom plugged straight into jjs ph2 hdi and started fine
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - silverzx - 25-04-2013
Don't do it... /facepalm
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - cwspellowe - 25-04-2013
(25-04-2013, 06:12 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Anyone know how compatible the electrics would be if I were to swap a 99 hdi lump with its engine loom connecting to the car loom of my 98 xsi cabby at the near side front chassis leg and HDI dials plugged in?
Would it start, would I need the immobiliser mapped out the ecu?
Any other issues I wont of thought of?
You'll still look like a hairdressing rainman?
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Dum-Dum - 26-04-2013
Anyone have any more thoughts on this?
HDi engine into cabby? - Jonny b - 26-04-2013
(26-04-2013, 02:33 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Anyone have any more thoughts on this?
Yep!! Don't do it lol
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - cully - 26-04-2013
(26-04-2013, 02:33 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Anyone have any more thoughts on this?
you will never get it finished
HDi engine into cabby? - THE_Liam - 26-04-2013
Wouldn't fancy a coaly derv with the roof down myself...
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Arron - 26-04-2013
I think it would be win.
Re: HDi engine into cabby? - Puggie - 26-04-2013
A cabby derv thats smokes its tits off awesome
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Dum-Dum - 26-04-2013
Just have to go fast enough the smoke cant catch you lol.
It's the reason I want a hdi as there should be alot less smoke.
Re: HDi engine into cabby? - Puggie - 26-04-2013
Still Devils fuel v6 it for shits and giggles
Re: HDi engine into cabby? - kentiiboii - 26-04-2013
Do it do it do it do it dooooo it
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - ozonehostile - 26-04-2013
i think a cabby gti would be better than hdi. finish your plans that were in place for your bianca 6 before its "incident" i.e. cammed and throttle bodies. epic bwarp with no roof
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Niall - 26-04-2013
(26-04-2013, 08:20 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: i think a cabby gti would be better than hdi. finish your plans that were in place for your bianca 6 before its "incident" i.e. cammed and throttle bodies. epic bwarp with no roof
Have you never realised that dum dum never finishes projects. He never even finishes thinking up projects before he scraps them!
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - ozonehostile - 26-04-2013
i don't know, he is getting better, at least with the sedan it actually got the engine change before he sold it haha
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - Dum-Dum - 27-04-2013
Yeah Im not a fan of useful cars that work properly
RE: HDi engine into cabby? - cully - 27-04-2013
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