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Doorman - Dicky - 10-03-2013
Anyone else a doorman here?
Basically I've been working the doors for 8 months now in 2 rough clubs in a small town near me, had a few slaps and this and that which I can deal with having boxed for 7 years along with Muai Thai and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Few weeks ago something happened with one of guys who work on the doors with me, cut the story short he had a hiding and had to have 6 titanium plates in his face.. he was the only person on the front door that night.
Think it's time I got some type of insurance, what do you have? or which do you guys think I should get?
RE: Doorman - spike2002 - 10-03-2013
Mtfu if you are doing that kind of job you should expect it now and then. Not that you deserve it exc but you will always get a twat who will think he is big no matter what its part of the job IMO if you cant accept that it may happen to you then you are in the wrong job. This is just my opinion but I'm not normal in the head and don't give a f*ck lol
RE: Doorman - Andy - 10-03-2013
Bit harsh Lee.
I've worked in a club and I've seen the bouncers getting a pasting.
For no reason as well. The bouncers are usually decent people and someone has to do the job. Someone I know is only doing it for extra money and is a Chef by trade. Fair play to you for doing it man and I have thought about getting my licence.
It tbh yeah, insurance is a good idea IMO
RE: Doorman - spike2002 - 10-03-2013
Not trying to be harsh at all but IMO it comes with the job you will always get some twat who thinks he's the big I am and will try it on with doormen just because that think they can. Insurance is prob a good idea but I don't see how you can get insured if I'm honest as it is inevitable that at some point as a bouncer you will get hurt this is from my opinion from where I live but in general you will get chavs where ever you go
RE: Doorman - Piggy - 10-03-2013
spike has a bit of a point....like being s soldier but being surprised when you get shot...
however insurance still isnt a bad idea....if the bad result may end in you not being able for you to provide for yourself or your family then its smart
...but it will be expensive.
knuckle dusters?!
Doorman - Jonny b - 10-03-2013
A good family friend runs doors in in my local town and some surrounding places ! As in not only on the door hisself but has a team working for him! Staff turnover is really high as some people get f*cked up and leave! and others that he gets rid of because they are just wannabe hard men that want to flex there muscles and or sell gear on his doors lol
He's been doing it over 20 years and has been in various positions that meant he couldn't work for a while!!
Though as said I think it's like a soldier wanting insurance! I can ask what he does if you like
RE: Doorman - Dum-Dum - 10-03-2013
Insurance will be expensive, make sure the club has good CCTV so that the police can catch whoever does it then sue the f*ckers when it goes to court.
As for getting hurt it dosen't matter how hard you are , its all about your communication skills. If your on the door cos you like proving your hard, flexing your muscles and showing off your ninja skillz then your always gonna get into fights. Defusing a situation before it becomes a situation is best bet and just remember that at the end of the day its only a job, number one priority is going home alive.
RE: Doorman - Dicky - 11-03-2013
I think people need to take a step back and realise in the UK we aren't 'bouncers' anymore we don't get paid to hit people or get hit, bouncers were usually tough people and known for it. Door supervisors however don't get paid to be hit by people or to give people a slap when they misbehave.
People say 'comes with the job' it actually doesn't, the course the SIA set is there for people to calm a situation down by talking someone down, rather than give it the big one and throw them out..
The reason I picked to be a doorman, the money is great and I don't drink anyway.. I work through the week then work weekends on the doors for some cash to treat my baby like a princess. I just wanted some advice on what insurance would be good for my situation incase something does happen then my baby goes without.
Doorman - Jonny b - 11-03-2013
^^ did you not read my post?
RE: Doorman - Dicky - 11-03-2013
(11-03-2013, 08:53 PM)Jonny b Wrote: ^^ did you not read my post?Skipped passed it my bad, yeah please mate if you don't mind
Doorman - Jonny b - 11-03-2013
Tut tut^^ don't think I want to now!!
Ha ha ill ask him when I see him probably Thursday !
RE: Doorman - Just Sean - 11-03-2013
soldiers do get insurance... ive got insurance... the more levels i pay for the more i get in return. currently got 1 level and its 15quid a month and covers me for everything
RE: Doorman - Dicky - 11-03-2013
(11-03-2013, 08:59 PM)Jonny b Wrote: Tut tut^^ don't think I want to now!!I was just reading the negative ones and skipped to the bottom
Ha ha ill ask him when I see him probably Thursday !
Cheers bud nice one
Being a doorman is a totally different thing to being a soldier to everyone who said it btw
£15 a month I could deal with no problem was that sorted out for you or did you sort it yourself?
RE: Doorman - Just Sean - 11-03-2013
a company came into work. its ran by ex servicemen
RE: Doorman - Bananalad - 12-03-2013
My insurance would be a police baton and some pepper spray
RE: Doorman - Poodle - 12-03-2013
Scream "ra*e" repeatedly, doesn't cost a penny and works every time.
RE: Doorman - devils_fuel - 13-03-2013
(11-03-2013, 08:59 PM)Jonny b Wrote: Tut tut^^ don't think I want to now!!
play nicely pops
To the OP - specialist insurers will cover anything for the right premium. Speak to a local broker who can point you in the right direction/get you a quote
RE: Doorman - CJ_Derv - 13-03-2013
I always had pepper spray but refused to work alone on a door should always be 2 up n cctv'd otherwise id turn it down
Look for another company
Re: RE: Doorman - Seb_Ryan - 13-03-2013
(13-03-2013, 01:47 PM)CJ_Derv Wrote: I always had pepper spray but refused to work alone on a door should always be 2 up n cctv'd otherwise id turn it down
Look for another company
This ^^ not very nice when you have 3 people that wanna kick your teeth out and your the only 1 haha. Def make sure theres cctv though, otherwise I wouldnt do it for love nor money
RE: Doorman - CJ_Derv - 13-03-2013
Good douse of pepper at all 3 n you can manage 3 drunks
Doorman - Y444TES - 13-03-2013
Pepper spray them and get done for having a firearm and that carries a minimum of 5 years in prison be better to beat them with a baton or something.
RE: Doorman - Dicky - 13-03-2013
(13-03-2013, 01:47 PM)CJ_Derv Wrote: I always had pepper spray but refused to work alone on a door should always be 2 up n cctv'd otherwise id turn it downNever thought of pepper spray!
Look for another company
RE: Doorman - Kas1990 - 11-04-2013
I'm a doorman
was head doorman at liquid at Rotherham for few months before it closed and worked alot of bars and clubs in Rotherham and mexborough and leeds and Olympics! I'm liking this forum more and more gym threads and doorman threads any xbox ones? HahaChoke them no marks just enough pressure to shock them into dropping and changing their mind of starting always a chance of hitting some poor sod and breaking his jaw and then game over badge gone! Always handing knowing some law to grow at drunk customers about breaking law being drunk on a licensed premises and trespassing when refusing to leave!
hold my hands up iv thrown down with a few sted heads and fights when someone attacks one of my boys we all went in! Few on YouTube actually :$ doorman now gotta be 50% thinking 10% talking 10% balls 30% aware!(10-03-2013, 02:26 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Insurance will be expensive, make sure the club has good CCTV so that the police can catch whoever does it then sue the f*ckers when it goes to court.
As for getting hurt it dosen't matter how hard you are , its all about your communication skills. If your on the door cos you like proving your hard, flexing your muscles and showing off your ninja skillz then your always gonna get into fights. Defusing a situation before it becomes a situation is best bet and just remember that at the end of the day its only a job, number one priority is going home alive.
In most cases CCTV won't help in July 2010 (early days on doors 20yo) I got jumped by four lads on the front door after management signed the only other lad on with me off on a Sunday cause it was quiet but things took a turn for the worst. Police knew where the lads were and caught there car license plate on CCTV and did nothing! All u got is your knowledge fists and team.
This is all IMO guys. I see my self as a very very good alert knowledgable door supervisor with alot of skills iv learnt and still more I'd love too learn from new staff I meet.
RE: Doorman - k3ogh - 11-04-2013
Play with feathers you're going to get your arse tickled comes to mind, as said before putting yourself in said situation its inevitable its going to happen! surely the company you work for offer some sort of insurance policy ??
RE: Doorman - Kas1990 - 11-04-2013
(11-04-2013, 10:41 PM)k3ogh Wrote: Play with feathers you're going to get your arse tickled comes to mind, as said before putting yourself in said situation its inevitable its going to happen! surely the company you work for offer some sort of insurance policy ??
Not really putting yourself in a situation by trying to look after staff and customers alike? Just a job end of day. Just like a cashier selling u a faulty item even though there just as much in the know as u are and then copping for it for manufacturers mistake? get my angle? Insurance with companies iv been with is for covering legal costs i.e solicitors loss of wages new uniform dental fees and etc etc.
RE: Doorman - Dicky - 11-04-2013
Forgot all about this thread, seems everyone has the wrong idea about what a doorman is unless you are one...
RE: Doorman - Kas1990 - 12-04-2013
(11-04-2013, 11:56 PM)Dicky Wrote: Forgot all about this thread, seems everyone has the wrong idea about what a doorman is unless you are one...
Defo! What clubs/companies u worked for mate?
RE: Doorman - Dicky - 12-04-2013
(12-04-2013, 12:01 AM)Kas1990 Wrote:Only worked for RAS / Machnamara mate, looking to go to another company soon(11-04-2013, 11:56 PM)Dicky Wrote: Forgot all about this thread, seems everyone has the wrong idea about what a doorman is unless you are one...
Defo! What clubs/companies u worked for mate?
RE: Doorman - Kas1990 - 12-04-2013
(10-03-2013, 03:11 AM)Dicky Wrote: Anyone else a doorman here?
Basically I've been working the doors for 8 months now in 2 rough clubs in a small town near me, had a few slaps and this and that which I can deal with having boxed for 7 years along with Muai Thai and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Few weeks ago something happened with one of guys who work on the doors with me, cut the story short he had a hiding and had to have 6 titanium plates in his face.. he was the only person on the front door that night.
Think it's time I got some type of insurance, what do you have? or which do you guys think I should get?
Back on topic the company he's with with should have employee liabilty insurance whether he's had to contribute to it (like I did 6 quid per week) or not he should be covered to have legal representation for claim for his distress and pain/loss of wages and normal functionality! Tell him its well worth talking to someone I'm in my final stages of my claim and its looking bright after 2-3 years of letters and court hearing. Hope it helps mate.
(12-04-2013, 12:03 AM)Dicky Wrote:(12-04-2013, 12:01 AM)Kas1990 Wrote:Only worked for RAS / Machnamara mate, looking to go to another company soon(11-04-2013, 11:56 PM)Dicky Wrote: Forgot all about this thread, seems everyone has the wrong idea about what a doorman is unless you are one...
Defo! What clubs/companies u worked for mate?
Not heard of them bud my lass just come back from grandads in Wales near sideside rhayl I would spell it but not sure what its called. Iv worked for local firm and professional security who are quite big all over uk.
RE: Doorman - Dicky - 12-04-2013
(12-04-2013, 12:04 AM)Kas1990 Wrote:Had so many chances to get into G4S but never taken them because of the bad reputation they have, along with the fact they take on and lay off all the time!(10-03-2013, 03:11 AM)Dicky Wrote: Anyone else a doorman here?
Basically I've been working the doors for 8 months now in 2 rough clubs in a small town near me, had a few slaps and this and that which I can deal with having boxed for 7 years along with Muai Thai and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Few weeks ago something happened with one of guys who work on the doors with me, cut the story short he had a hiding and had to have 6 titanium plates in his face.. he was the only person on the front door that night.
Think it's time I got some type of insurance, what do you have? or which do you guys think I should get?
Back on topic the company he's with with should have employee liabilty insurance whether he's had to contribute to it (like I did 6 quid per week) or not he should be covered to have legal representation for claim for his distress and pain/loss of wages and normal functionality! Tell him its well worth talking to someone I'm in my final stages of my claim and its looking bright after 2-3 years of letters and court hearing. Hope it helps mate.
(12-04-2013, 12:03 AM)Dicky Wrote:(12-04-2013, 12:01 AM)Kas1990 Wrote: Defo! What clubs/companies u worked for mate?Only worked for RAS / Machnamara mate, looking to go to another company soon
Not heard of them bud my lass just come back from grandads in Wales near sideside rhayl I would spell it but not sure what its called. Iv worked for local firm and professional security who are quite big all over uk.
I REALLY wanna do my CP license when I have abit more money, but heard its hard to get into unless you have an ex-forces background.