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Blue smoke on starts (help) - phillf - 02-02-2013
have alot of blue smoke on starts for first few secs til it clears also takes a few turns to get it going just wondering what your thoughts are on this??, engine isnt using oil or mixing in watr
ordring sum bosch duraterms latr todayhopefully wil fix this???
phase 1 diablo d turbo
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Mattcheese31 - 02-02-2013
blue smoke is oil afaik . . . .
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - phillf - 02-02-2013
(02-02-2013, 10:42 AM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: blue smoke is oil afaik . . . .
hmm isnt using any tho been checkn it for the last 2 weeks
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Dan! - 02-02-2013
It will be burning oil, most likely through the turbo seals. Could also be through the HG or Valve seals but if its just a couple of coughs on start up then id say turbo. If it was HG or Valve seals you would get wisps of blue when you let off the accelerator after accelerating.
Wouldnt worry about it too much as turbos on these are cheap as chips now. My 205 used to do it too and thats still running the same turbo 2 years on.
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - phillf - 02-02-2013
is usually jst for first 2 mins, hold it on 3,000 revs to jst clear it then is fine hmm
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Piggy - 02-02-2013
blue is oil
black is fuel
white is water vapor
can be a variety of things...but I see plenty of modern diesels give a blue puff on start up
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Mattcheese31 - 02-02-2013
(02-02-2013, 12:31 PM)Piggy1987 Wrote: blue is oil
black is fuel
white is water vapor
can be a variety of things...but I see plenty of modern diesels give a blue puff on start up
not really mate . . . .have you ever ran an XUD that's slipped a couple of teeth on the fuel pump retarding the timing? . . . .no thought not . .
sorry i should have said white is also unburnt fuel . . . .
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - phillf - 02-02-2013
just had the plugs out probs for the first time ever! 2 are split and all look abit chipd??
probs why runnin lumpy on start up?
new plugs ordered
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Piggy - 02-02-2013
white being unburnt fuel is a bit of a first
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Mattcheese31 - 02-02-2013
(02-02-2013, 05:02 PM)Piggy1987 Wrote: white being unburnt fuel is a bit of a first
haha oh really . . . well you are only a young un i suppose . . .
Re: RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Dan! - 02-02-2013
(02-02-2013, 05:02 PM)Piggy1987 Wrote: white being unburnt fuel is a bit of a first
White smoke is unburnt fuel. Retard a fuel pump too much and it will pour out white smoke due to the late injection/poor combustion. Black/grey is partially burnt fuel, usually because there was too much fuel in the cylinder per amount of air.
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Piggy - 02-02-2013
certainly a first when it comes to tractors anyhow
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Mattcheese31 - 02-02-2013
(02-02-2013, 05:48 PM)Piggy1987 Wrote: certainly a first when it comes to tractors anyhow
just admit you're wrong and we can move on . . .
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Piggy - 02-02-2013
I do...I did?!
I came
I wronged
I learned
I'm dumb
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - Mattcheese31 - 02-02-2013
(02-02-2013, 05:50 PM)Piggy1987 Wrote: I do...I did?!
I came
I wronged
I learned
I'm dumb
good little piggy . .
. . . . .and ftr water is transparent
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - jpderv - 02-02-2013
just got mine running again today exact same symptoms little blue puffs come out for a wile its def not oil with me though when i stand behind it stinks of diesel also lopes a bit when cold 100% when warm though.
could very well be a timing thing because i changed the timing belt on the engine before i put it in locked the cam and pump with the bolts and the fly with an alan key and noticed that somebody had the cam and pump wheels marked with a bit of tipex and then a little mark on pump bracket and rocker and both marks were a tooth ahead of the marks on the bracket and rocker even though i had every thing marked up i dont know how this has happened.
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - phillf - 05-02-2013
wel happy plugs changd not a sign of any smoke now and starts first click! sortd!
old plugs must of bn really shot
mot tomorrow
RE: Blue smoke on starts (help) - CJ_Derv - 05-02-2013
(02-02-2013, 05:02 PM)Piggy1987 Wrote: white being unburnt fuel is a bit of a first
Haha u wanna see mine start up on just two plugs then it fills the street with white smoke its fuckin hillarious,
Have a read up on the bosch VE manual diesel can actually burn all different colours dependant at what stage of burn or temperature its at
