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RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - samass - 15-07-2013
You only ever asked me about the fitting of a pump, which is a ballache. And at any rate, when you were messaging me about it I hadn't got as far as worrying about a clutch.
Meh, 106owners don't know shit. It'll fit.
Even still, if you did it how i did it, 30 quid for parts, and then an hours labour for a welder. I'm lucky enough to have bought a welder for 15 quid on ebay
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Piggy - 15-07-2013
but personally I wouldn't have it migged...as you can get bits of weld/wire left in the pipe...which can with heat dislodge and end up in ya turbo!
good info that the fly fits tbough.
did you relocate the battery then sam?
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - samass - 15-07-2013
Yeah but if you look don't the pipe and take out the bits of shit left in, then it's fine, or, just don't be a spastic and weld it properly anyway. I'm a shit welder but i managed to not fill the inside of the pipe with shite.
Yeah, battery is bodged in the boot
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Chris_90 - 15-07-2013
Any chance of a pic of how your exhaust comes off turbo back to the original exhaust sam?
Checked it out at pugfest didn't see you tho lol
Think the main bit that is putting me off is how to fit the pump and time it up, cos how I look at it the Bosch won't fit the 106 bracket, I'm guessing the 306 Bosch bracket holes don't line up on the engine??
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Piggy - 15-07-2013
the bosch fits, its the timing issue that also would concern me
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Chris_90 - 15-07-2013
(15-07-2013, 08:53 PM)Piggy Wrote: the bosch fits, its the timing issue that also would concern me
You say the Bosch fits, you mean the bracket fits to the engine?
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - samass - 15-07-2013
Sure man, ill get a pic tomorrow, it's not ideal, i want a 106 gti sump so i can route it more like the gti does
The 306 Bosch fits to the bracket, just need nuts and bolts instead of stud and nuts. The timing is an issue as there are no marks, but compare it to the 306 and you get it close ish, then it's a case of trial an error. Took me a week. But i was pretty much a derv noob and didn't have a clue lol
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Chris_90 - 15-07-2013
(15-07-2013, 09:00 PM)samass Wrote: Sure man, ill get a pic tomorrow, it's not ideal, i want a 106 gti sump so i can route it more like the gti does
The 306 Bosch fits to the bracket, just need nuts and bolts instead of stud and nuts. The timing is an issue as there are no marks, but compare it to the 306 and you get it close ish, then it's a case of trial an error. Took me a week. But i was pretty much a derv noob and didn't have a clue lol
Ok mate thanks, and might see if I can get a Bosch on then cos I need to do cambelt asap any way. How can I find out what fuel line is in and out on my lucus now? Also do the Bosch lines and injectors fit ok?
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - samass - 15-07-2013
I can't remember which way round it is, easiest way is to disconnect them both, pump the priming bulb and see which ones piss fuel.
Injectors and lines don't fit, you'll have to bend the original Lucas lines to fit in the right order, just be careful you don't break them lol
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Piggy - 15-07-2013
so you running lucas injectors?
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - samass - 15-07-2013
Correct. 106 Bosch ones are like 25 quid each on ebay
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Piggy - 15-07-2013
ouch. are the breaking pressures not different?
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Chris_90 - 15-07-2013
(15-07-2013, 10:03 PM)samass Wrote: Correct. 106 Bosch ones are like 25 quid each on ebay
the more we go in to it the more I'm surprised it runs 
what are the brake pressures on the lucus injectors? Surely this brake pressure affects how it runs? What mpg you getting from it now it's turbo'ed?
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - samass - 15-07-2013
f*ck knows, and f*ck knows. Fuel gauge is broke and im running veg, i did about 380 miles to about 30l tho, so work that out if you like lol
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Chris_90 - 15-07-2013
(15-07-2013, 10:29 PM)samass Wrote: f*ck knows, and f*ck knows. Fuel gauge is broke and im running veg, i did about 380 miles to about 30l tho, so work that out if you like lol
Ohhh gonna stop asking questions before you tell me to piss off
All tho why did you take the oil line off a sandwich plate off the oil filter? There is the oil pressure sensor just above there and you can get a t-piece for that's my plan for the oil feed for the turbo, so I can put an oil cooler on to keep the temps low
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - samass - 15-07-2013
Yeah i know lol, that's my plan to do for the second turbo, i just didn't think of it when I did it first time round haha
Pretty big learning experience for me to be fair, started out just making it up as i went a long, then got advice from various people along the way who had much better ideas then me lolz
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Chris_90 - 15-07-2013
(15-07-2013, 10:42 PM)samass Wrote: Yeah i know lol, that's my plan to do for the second turbo, i just didn't think of it when I did it first time round haha
Pretty big learning experience for me to be fair, started out just making it up as i went a long, then got advice from various people along the way who had much better ideas then me lolz
Lol! I've got it all planned in my head watching most of the stuff I need in my eBay but just scared to put it in to action
defo gonna get a pump tho so I can swap it when I do belt change
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - samass - 15-07-2013
Just man the f*ck up and buy it, buy it all!
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Piggy - 15-07-2013
too right
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Danny2009 - 16-07-2013
Get it done I have a spare engine
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Chris_90 - 16-07-2013
(16-07-2013, 01:31 AM)Danny2009 Wrote: Get it done I have a spare engine
Yours is the 1.4 tho and what I have read up about 1.4's they arnt very good.
I will start collecting bits I think see how I get on first thing is getting cambelt done cost a fortune fir full Kit £80 then like £25 for water pump, only paid £40 for the d turbo cambelt Kit
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Piggy - 16-07-2013
worth doing all that with the turbo or engine change.
I wouldnt panic...it needs doing but I have seen the 1.5d go well over 50k passed its cambelt due date
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, New seats+ door cards sorted :D - Chris_90 - 03-08-2013
So not much happening with this, Few weeks ago my water pump deiced it didn't like its bearings luckily manged to get it in garage before it actually fell to bits so its had full cambelt kit and water pump now.
Need to go over the suspension as got a few more rattles appearing also think i need to do brakes soon still toying with the upgrade to 266mm just so it easier to brake, but need to sort out a master cylinder to suit, but then i think i will need to either sort out brake compstor on rear axle or get a brake bias valve...... Not quite sure what to do yet.
Anyway looking at other wheels as bored of these wheels now and hate the fact i keep seeing more 106s/saxos with them on. SO whats your opinions on these guys???
![[Image: 106green146photoshop_zpsa03f4db2.jpg]](http://s552.photobucket.com/user/mazda_323f/media/106green146photoshop_zpsa03f4db2.jpg.html)
on this photoshop its been lowered more, doubt i will lower it more than it already is tho as struggle on bumps now.
Comments welcome
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, Wheel opinions ?? - samass - 03-08-2013
You don't *need* a bigger master cylinder with 266s btw, sure there is a bit more pedal travel, but it's not bad. I say get on with it.
Those wheels look the tits too Btw
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, Wheel opinions ?? - Danny2009 - 03-08-2013
Ronal turbos are full of win
chris_90 106 derv project, Wheel opinions ?? - MarkTD - 03-08-2013
Looks sweet on Ronals!
You up for helping me fit FMIC one weekend?
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, Wheel opinions ?? - ozonehostile - 03-08-2013
always liked ronal turbos, good luck finding tthem in 4x108 though
almost all available sets ive ever come across have been in vag fitment
Re: chris_90 106 derv project, Wheel opinions ?? - kentiiboii - 03-08-2013
I got a mastercylinder here you can have for beer tokens mate.
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, Wheel opinions ?? - Chris_90 - 03-08-2013
(03-08-2013, 09:19 AM)samass Wrote: You don't *need* a bigger master cylinder with 266s btw, sure there is a bit more pedal travel, but it's not bad. I say get on with it.
Those wheels look the tits too Btw
I think i got to much pedal travel now with standard brakes so think with 266 i wont like it at all prefer the more solid feel easier to use i think.
(03-08-2013, 10:07 AM)Danny2009 Wrote: Ronal turbos are full of win
(03-08-2013, 10:40 AM)MarkTD Wrote: Looks sweet on Ronals!
You up for helping me fit FMIC one weekend?
Depends what week end mate if its a weekend when the gf is at work then yer dont mind lending a hand, if she is off its a no go as im quite attached to my bollocks
lol drop me a message mate (03-08-2013, 10:41 AM)ozonehostile Wrote: always liked ronal turbos, good luck finding tthem in 4x108 though
Yer never seen them in 4x108 but looking at stud adapters look at some at the min
(03-08-2013, 01:30 PM)kentiiboii Wrote: I got a mastercylinder here you can have for beer tokens mate.
I need four port bet yours is 2 port??
RE: chris_90 106 derv project, Wheel opinions ?? - lolsteve - 03-08-2013
Ronal turbos have been done already on vag scene. Never been much of a fan of them look like the wheels on cheap toy cars
See if you can scout out something different, that the vag scene will copy you from then you can be all like "ppft oh vag you're so out of date" . That will ruffle their truffles something fierce