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RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - jammapic - 15-12-2013
FYI, the head. Don't bother with an uprated cam... Not very good bang for buck.
Get it gas flowed, bigger valves, with 5 angle seats and you'll be about where you need to be. Just DO NOT use Hiflowheads.
JP
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - londondan86 - 15-12-2013
(15-12-2013, 12:18 AM)Frosty Wrote: Looking good chap! How far is it off running again?
Hopefully the engine will be running again tomorrow. I need to get a thermostat and I need to collect my new header tank from the post office (bloody postman came at 5pm yesterday) also waiting for my brother in law to bring me back the hubs as they're getting bearing pressed in.
(15-12-2013, 08:57 AM)Chris_90 Wrote:(15-12-2013, 08:43 AM)Niall Wrote:(15-12-2013, 07:57 AM)Chris_90 Wrote: What's the benefit of the bigger crank pulley? Looking good
Increases the charger speed so more air being pushed through. IIRC Darren had that pulley made to take the charger up to about 15,000rpm which is about their limit. Pretty sure it was 15k anyway!
Oh interestingmore boost is defo for the win
Spot on Nial!
and yea, more boost is always win!!! (15-12-2013, 09:22 AM)jammapic Wrote: FYI, the head. Don't bother with an uprated cam... Not very good bang for buck.
Get it gas flowed, bigger valves, with 5 angle seats and you'll be about where you need to be. Just DO NOT use Hiflowheads.
JP
Yea the cam came with the spare engine so no cost outlay. Going to have a word with the machine shop to see what can be done on the head, all depends on the gains as they do flow really well standard. I wont spend 600 quid for a 3hp gain just so I can say "gas flowed becauseracecar"
Why not use Hiflowheads? The reviews online look pretty good from what I can tell (I'm not using them, just curious)
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - darrenjlobb - 15-12-2013
DONT TOUCH HIFLOWHEADS
That said back on topic.
Good work! Great to see the win setup back together, and its looking much tidier this time, love it
For those who asked, the pulley is to gear the charger up, otherwise it was only running at just under half speed, so i had that made to gear it so that at 5000rpm it was just touching eatons "max rated speed" I used to rev it out to 6200 so just over that, but they seem to be fine, but yeah was just to get more boost!
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - Niall - 15-12-2013
Darren did you ever have any issues with that like belt slipping or heat issues? Considering a -19% pulley for mine as long as it doesn't cause too many issues!
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - darrenjlobb - 15-12-2013
The charger pulley you mean? surely you dont want to make the crank pulley smaller... id say you will need to gear it up still not down..your only revving to what 7200rpm or so?
Never had trouble with belt slipping on the charger, only on the alternator once when i didnt have enough contact, but fine after i added an idler
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - Niall - 15-12-2013
Nah I'll be keeping the crank pulley standard size but fit a smaller charger pulley. I haven't worked out the speeds yet so I'm not even sure what it will rev the charger to now but if I can get it up to about 15k at 7500rpm, I'll be sorted
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - darrenjlobb - 15-12-2013
Ah, i was going to do that but realsied A i couldnt small enough to make it fast enough, and b the pulley was seized to the shaft like a sodddd
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - londondan86 - 15-12-2013
Yea I've never had problems slipping on the charger as there's so much belt contact around it although the alternator did slip quite a bit without a lot of tension.
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - Niall - 15-12-2013
Meh. Who needs an alternator when you have a supercharger :p
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - c.gerrard - 15-12-2013
Looking great!
Think you win the award for the most hectic block.
Wanted to come help when this went back together, did my invite get lost in the post?
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - londondan86 - 15-12-2013
(15-12-2013, 06:02 PM)Niall Wrote: Meh. Who needs an alternator when you have a supercharger :p
Lol, is there a law against candle headlights!!
(15-12-2013, 06:32 PM)c.gerrard Wrote: Looking great!
Think you win the award for the most hectic block.
Wanted to come help when this went back together, did my invite get lost in the post?
I'm hoping to tidy it all up once it's going, no idea yet how Darren got his looking so tidy lol! And don't forget this is only build 2 of 3 so you can defo come up on the next one matey! This has been a bit build a bit when I have time at the moment!
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - jammapic - 15-12-2013
Hiflowheads took £2711.17 of my money and never delivered me anything...
Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - Aaron _d95 - 16-12-2013
Can't wait to see this back up and running. When will it be back on the road. I'll be sure to look out for it.
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Progress at last :D - londondan86 - 16-12-2013
It lives! Done 11hrs on that car today but pleased with progress. Anyway video first!!!!
No exhaust from the downpipe back in that vid so its a bit loud. Also she's leaking derv from the fuel filter housing as the seal had dried up and I didn't have a spare.
I still need some sort of hydraulic hose for the power steering pump -> Resevoir
Below is my header tank, just taken it to my brother in laws work where hes on nights so it can be modified for the ~12mm hose which goes to the water pump.
These b*stards were a nightmare today, took about 20 mins for each injector to get out. As you can see I ended up using a screwdriver to split them in 2 to get them to move!!!
After the injector seals were done I began making progress
Intercooler and rad on
Front end on, hopefully I dont have any water leaks now!! :S
New number plate on
Not had the hubs back yet so she cant go anywhere yet
Also the bloody rev counter still doesn't work
I'm thinking that Ben who had the car last has put hdi clocks in so I may require some late P2 clocks with the light up needles and approx 130k.
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - Anton - 16-12-2013
Amazing progress! Well done
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - londondan86 - 16-12-2013
(16-12-2013, 10:31 PM)Anton Wrote: Amazing progress! Well done
Cheers matey, nothing like hearing a car cough and spit into life after it's been in bits!
Also the throttle cable routing is causing it to stick, may need to look at getting a shorter one.....
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - padge - 16-12-2013
just brilliant mate, well done.
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - Niall - 16-12-2013
Looks fantastic mate. I want a trip out in this next time i see you!
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - Piggy - 17-12-2013
I had to use Ph2 xud clocks in my ph3 to get rev counter to work...if that helps!?
Well done with this mate
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - jammapic - 17-12-2013
Can't wait to see this up and running!
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - Mattcheese31 - 17-12-2013
great stuff . . . .loving the work, looks like you're doing a good job with it . .
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - ozonehostile - 21-12-2013
nice work man. sort of motivating me to go finish my own now haha
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - zx_volcane - 21-12-2013
Good work on getting it all shoved back together, won't be long till its on the road
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - londondan86 - 22-12-2013
Cheers guys^ Just got back from picking up my hubs so as long as she holds her water she'll be getting driven out tomorrow!
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - Tom - 22-12-2013
Xuds are supposed to hold water? What?
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - londondan86 - 23-12-2013
(22-12-2013, 11:37 PM)Tom Wrote: Xuds are supposed to hold water? What?
lol, yea made me chuckle as I wrote it. Its more of a Christmas wish than anything else
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - Bengley - 23-12-2013
(16-12-2013, 10:27 PM)londondan86 Wrote: It lives! Done 11hrs on that car today but pleased with progress. Anyway video first!!!!
No exhaust from the downpipe back in that vid so its a bit loud. Also she's leaking derv from the fuel filter housing as the seal had dried up and I didn't have a spare.
I still need some sort of hydraulic hose for the power steering pump -> Resevoir
Below is my header tank, just taken it to my brother in laws work where hes on nights so it can be modified for the ~12mm hose which goes to the water pump.
These b*stards were a nightmare today, took about 20 mins for each injector to get out. As you can see I ended up using a screwdriver to split them in 2 to get them to move!!!
After the injector seals were done I began making progress
Intercooler and rad on
Front end on, hopefully I dont have any water leaks now!! :S
New number plate on
Not had the hubs back yet so she cant go anywhere yet
Also the bloody rev counter still doesn't work
Those clocks are out of a Ph2 Dturbo and they worked fine in the old car!
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - londondan86 - 24-12-2013
Really odd, I've tried all sorts with them, I've just bought another set on here so I'll see how I get on in the new year.
No progress due to rain coming in sideways yesterday so nothing to update at the mo.
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - Chris306 - 11-01-2014
just out of interest what turbo and supercharger is it/are they, iv spent 3 and a half hours on lobbs threads lookin for insperation on a supercharged/turbocharged xud, also without trying to hijack your threads (sorry in advance if i do lol) but have you thought about the 6 speed box from a gti6, wernt to sure how itd suite the xud if it were possible swap that is. loving the work though mate, i cant stop reading through and looking at the pictures with excitment haha
RE: Londondan's Black Supercharged XUD Engine 2 first start :D - jammapic - 11-01-2014
I don't know what the turbo is on this setup, but I expect the supercharger is an Eaton m45...