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RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Matt-Rallye - 27-10-2014
Precisely, no point arsing around for that kinda money!
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Dum-Dum - 27-10-2014
(27-10-2014, 11:48 AM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: Its doesnt compute in my head as to why you have spent good money and done a proper job elsewhere but your skimping and bodging old & new bits of exhaust together?I don't have the £350 for a mongoose or similar, thats the issue.
(27-10-2014, 12:29 PM)RetroPug Wrote: You can get decent 2nd hand whole cat back exhausts for 100-120.You cant, they are all magnex or abused.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Piggy - 27-10-2014
Theres bargains to be had...just no one selling I guess.
Ive got a powerflow cat back from a gti, cost me £75 second hand and its still as good as the day I fitted it
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Matt-Rallye - 27-10-2014
(27-10-2014, 03:26 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote:(27-10-2014, 11:48 AM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: Its doesnt compute in my head as to why you have spent good money and done a proper job elsewhere but your skimping and bodging old & new bits of exhaust together?I don't have the £350 for a mongoose or similar, thats the issue.
(27-10-2014, 12:29 PM)RetroPug Wrote: You can get decent 2nd hand whole cat back exhausts for 100-120.You cant, they are all magnex or abused.
Bollocks i picked up my Scorpion for cheap. Just search every cars breaking thread on here and gti6 and you will come up trumps.
I would never go near a sportex backbox. They are the absolute worst of cheap shit exhausts that are purely for noise! Exactly like i will never use a magnex exhaust.
First choice for me will always be mongoose exhausts, worth every penny of that asking price IMO. Settled with the scorpion due to price and quality though.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - mr_fish - 27-10-2014
In your sun strip photo, is that the remains of the estate in the background
On the subject of exhausts, don't think any could be worse noise than a Spoon (don't hold me to that) exhaust....I quote Matt here... "angry wasp in a can"
My ears after that rolling road run.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Matt-Rallye - 27-10-2014
(27-10-2014, 04:15 PM)mr_fish Wrote: In your sun strip photo, is that the remains of the estate in the background
On the subject of exhausts, don't think any could be worse noise than a Spoon (don't hold me to that) exhaust....I quote Matt here... "angry wasp in a can"
My ears after that rolling road run.
Angry wasp in a bean can
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Dum-Dum - 28-10-2014
(27-10-2014, 03:32 PM)Piggy Wrote: Theres bargains to be had...just no one selling I guess.The problem is my exhaust has come off twice in the last week, I need something cheap and relatively effective asap.
Ive got a powerflow cat back from a gti, cost me £75 second hand and its still as good as the day I fitted it
(27-10-2014, 03:41 PM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: Bollocks i picked up my Scorpion for cheap. Just search every cars breaking thread on here and gti6 and you will come up trumps.I'm not on the GTi6 forum and there was nothing that took my fancy on here. If I get another stainless I'm holding out for another blue flame one.
I would never go near a sportex backbox. They are the absolute worst of cheap shit exhausts that are purely for noise! Exactly like i will never use a magnex exhaust.
First choice for me will always be mongoose exhausts, worth every penny of that asking price IMO. Settled with the scorpion due to price and quality though.
I cant see how your saying the sportex is shit quality, from the pictures on google they look better made than the Magnex ones that everyone fapps over, like theres 3 hangers on the back box all with the proper clips to retain the exhaust rubber for a start and the welding couldn't be worse than the magnex which is atrocious.
(27-10-2014, 04:15 PM)mr_fish Wrote: In your sun strip photo, is that the remains of the estate in the background
Yeah thats the last of the estate, gonna cut that up tomorrow.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Matt-Rallye - 28-10-2014
(28-10-2014, 10:08 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote:(27-10-2014, 03:32 PM)Piggy Wrote: Theres bargains to be had...just no one selling I guess.The problem is my exhaust has come off twice in the last week, I need something cheap and relatively effective asap.
Ive got a powerflow cat back from a gti, cost me £75 second hand and its still as good as the day I fitted it
(27-10-2014, 03:41 PM)Matt-Rallye Wrote: Bollocks i picked up my Scorpion for cheap. Just search every cars breaking thread on here and gti6 and you will come up trumps.I'm not on the GTi6 forum and there was nothing that took my fancy on here. If I get another stainless I'm holding out for another blue flame one.
I would never go near a sportex backbox. They are the absolute worst of cheap shit exhausts that are purely for noise! Exactly like i will never use a magnex exhaust.
First choice for me will always be mongoose exhausts, worth every penny of that asking price IMO. Settled with the scorpion due to price and quality though.
I cant see how your saying the sportex is shit quality, from the pictures on google they look better made than the Magnex ones that everyone fapps over, like theres 3 hangers on the back box all with the proper clips to retain the exhaust rubber for a start and the welding couldn't be worse than the magnex which is atrocious.
(27-10-2014, 04:15 PM)mr_fish Wrote: In your sun strip photo, is that the remains of the estate in the background
Yeah thats the last of the estate, gonna cut that up tomorrow.
I have used so many different exhaust systems over the years i feel qualified to judge.
Sportex is only mild steal hence the cheap price and the fact it'll rot out! I do NOT rate the magnex at all, constant piss poor quality problems with the one i had. Zakks hasn't been problem free but i think thats more because someone has heatwrapped the entire system so it keeps melting the middle hanger.
Scorpion has made good power on mine and sits perfectly, doesnt rattle / vibrate and is alot better made than the magnex.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - RetroPug - 28-10-2014
(27-10-2014, 03:26 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote:(27-10-2014, 12:29 PM)RetroPug Wrote: You can get decent 2nd hand whole cat back exhausts for 100-120.You cant, they are all magnex or abused.
Actually, you can.
My full Mongoose was 110, I've seen full scorpions go for anywhere from 90-120 in the last few months. My current exhaust cost a bit more than that but I had a fair bit of fabrication done.
You just need to wait and keep looking at that price. I'm happy to let you know if a nice one pops up on the gti6 forum if that'd help. However, you've mentioned you don't have time to wait, which is ok. They are out there though.
I've never used a sportex exhaust so can't comment on them.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - HDIkyle - 28-10-2014
I had that back box on my 6 it was awful just pure deafening noise had to wear ear defenders all the time changed it after not very long. That exhaust hanger is however a work of art.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Piggy - 28-10-2014
Why not find a standard system and fit that till you can afford a nice one?
Surely theres a few peeps with a standard system just sat around doing nout?!
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Dum-Dum - 28-10-2014
(28-10-2014, 08:10 PM)Piggy Wrote: Why not find a standard system and fit that till you can afford a nice one?
Surely theres a few peeps with a standard system just sat around doing nout?!
Because standard systems cost more than cheap aftermarket ones?
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Piggy - 28-10-2014
What even second hand??
Someone on here must have one they dont want?!
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Niall - 28-10-2014
(28-10-2014, 08:26 PM)Piggy Wrote: What even second hand??
Someone on here must have one they dont want?!
Yeah a lot of the standard system is NLA from pug so they seem to go for a lot now!
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Toms306 - 28-10-2014
James, you forget it comes with GTi tax....
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - 7057sam - 28-10-2014
Yep look on the "other forum" they sell for more than most stainless systems.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Dum-Dum - 29-10-2014
So in preparation for the new exhaust I bought myself some ear defenders and some new ear plugs. Both are 35db reduction. The ear defenders are 3M Peltor Optime 3s and the plugs are Howard Leight Laser Lites. Also got myself a swanky Red Bull Racing case for the ear plugs to go on my keys.
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RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - af1 - 29-10-2014
Ah I recognise those ear plugs!
I also took a stash at NHC
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Midnightclub - 29-10-2014
Sportex really aren't as shit as some people are making out, build quality is fine, noise is nice.. but they're loud. If you don't mind that, then it'll be fine. I had a de-cat, to straight through centre and then that backbox and it sounded pretty nuts at 7250 with a half stripped car.
For the price they're good enough, but going from that to a scorpion.. you do get a slight increase in mid-range torque and it's generally a lot quieter when you want it to be.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Dum-Dum - 29-10-2014
(29-10-2014, 12:01 PM)af1 Wrote: Ah I recognise those ear plugs!Nope I paid for these. Used them the last time I was on a range and really liked them so bought some.
I also took a stash at NHC
(29-10-2014, 12:07 PM)Midnightclub Wrote: Sportex really aren't as shit as some people are making out, build quality is fine, noise is nice.. but they're loud. If you don't mind that, then it'll be fine. I had a de-cat, to straight through centre and then that backbox and it sounded pretty nuts at 7250 with a half stripped car.
For the price they're good enough, but going from that to a scorpion.. you do get a slight increase in mid-range torque and it's generally a lot quieter when you want it to be.
Exactly. It can't physically be any louder than the Magnex that was on there so it'll do
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Piggy - 29-10-2014
Those peltors are ace!
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Dum-Dum - 29-10-2014
(29-10-2014, 04:21 PM)Piggy Wrote: Those peltors are ace!
I know. Put them on in front of the TV the other night and couldn't hear the TV at all.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - af1 - 29-10-2014
hope your having more luck with your rallye then i am mine.. mine is quickly becomming a money pit!!
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Dum-Dum - 29-10-2014
Mine is a massive money pit too, she is a complete and utter diva.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Ruan - 29-10-2014
Facking loved my Scorpion tbh...
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - af1 - 29-10-2014
haha yes!
its certainly a labour of love
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - cully - 30-10-2014
after the power gains for going back to a std system im not refilting my loud stainles system to the six!
i bought my std system for under £80 delivered and that included the genuine CAT
you just need to wait and trawl the forums to find the goodies
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - RetroPug - 30-10-2014
(29-10-2014, 06:51 PM)Ruan Wrote: Facking loved my Scorpion tbh...
I'm stainless straight-through to a scorpion backbox, sounds amazing.
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Ruan - 30-10-2014
Mine was simply the stock system, decatted with original midsection and Scorpion rear box... Brilliantly quiet at cruise, raspy and snarly as hell under full load with a propensity to crackle and bang like a bastard.
Never felt it significantly reduced midrange, but worked hard just before the limiter... You definitely had to keep the engine on it's toes to extract performance!
RE: Dum-Dum's Black Rallye - Dum-Dum - 30-10-2014
My problem with standard mid boxes is with me driving they never seem to keep their baffles intact for long.
As I've said if a blue flame system pops up I'll be all over it like a rash.