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RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 07-02-2014
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To be honest.. these are about the same size as a gearbox off a 1000cc motorbike.
If i can mock up some sort of selector drum this might just work.. even by using the original gearing.
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Tom - 07-02-2014
If you can make our gear boxes sequential some how, you will sell a massive amount of the bits to convert them. Sequential is so racecar and we all love that!!
Just watched this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1APhLQVtlE
So basically weld a few pins onto the selector forks and machine a drum then gogogogo???
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 07-02-2014
Say I did set one up for a XUD, using the same bell housing/cases. would it fit any other models? Say a 6 or something.
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(07-02-2014, 09:57 PM)Tom Wrote: If you can make our gear boxes sequential some how, you will sell a massive amount of the bits to convert them. Sequential is so racecar and we all love that!!
Just watched this... HHHHHHHEEEEEYYYYYYYY A VVVIIIDEOOOOOO
So basically weld a few pins onto the selector forks and machine a drum then gogogogo???
Ha seen that a weeks or so a go.
like i said it just needs a selector drum. The ballache is keeping reverse gear.!!
With the space in the cases, the reverse gear may have to go bibi.. or relocated to a random place
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Tom - 07-02-2014
Have reverse on a cable and a boot popper solenoid...
Remember the '6 has a 6 speed box as opposed to our measly 5 speeds
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Martin306 - 07-02-2014
Get an electric motor for reverse, on your non driven rear wheel. simple.
Get crackin on a sequential box now!
Re: RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Seb_Ryan - 07-02-2014
(07-02-2014, 10:45 PM)Martin306 Wrote: Get an electric motor for reverse, on your non driven rear wheel. simple.
Get crackin on a sequential box now!
This.
That's how it was on our Westfield, an electric motor in between propshaft and the fire blade gearbox, came off though as it's just a track weapon
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 07-02-2014
(07-02-2014, 10:45 PM)Martin306 Wrote: Get an electric motor for reverse, on your non driven rear wheel. simple.
Get crackin on a sequential box now!
I was thinking more along the lines of selling to other people after its tested lol
so i wish to keep the rev in the gearbox itselfOr at least the plans on how to do it. Guide ect..ect
Tom.. Are they the same on the outside though? like same bolt holes, to bolt on to the crank?
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Tom - 07-02-2014
Yeah '6 box fits xud engine.
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 07-02-2014
(07-02-2014, 11:09 PM)Tom Wrote: Yeah '6 box fits xud engine.
Good to know cheers bud.
I'm going to carry on with the trike build and do the seggy on the fly..
on a side note.. anyone got some f*cked gearboxes?
(just incase) 
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Danny2009 - 07-02-2014
ive got a few more
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 07-02-2014
By f*cked I mean free
Oh.. just add one of these! there only...... $19,000???? might fit a 306
http://sheptrans.com/products/evo-x-5-speed-transmission/evo-x-sequential-gear-box/
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Rippthrough - 08-02-2014
(07-02-2014, 09:57 PM)Tom Wrote: So basically weld a few pins onto the selector forks and machine a drum then gogogogo???
And remove the synchro's, and rings, have a full dog-engagement gearset and selector rings machined. And mod the casings for bearings for the selector shaft, if you can even fit it in.
May as well just buy a dog box by the time you've done.
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 08-02-2014
(08-02-2014, 12:05 AM)Rippthrough Wrote:(07-02-2014, 09:57 PM)Tom Wrote: So basically weld a few pins onto the selector forks and machine a drum then gogogogo???
And remove the synchro's, and rings, have a full dog-engagement gearset and selector rings machined. And mod the casings for bearings for the selector shaft, if you can even fit it in.
May as well just buy a dog box by the time you've done.
Calm down.. its a bit of fun
I'm trying to do this cos I'm a lazy. not for SUUPER DOOPER fast gear changes at 12k rpm
oh wait its a car engine. 
I mean 1.2k rpm 
syc-mesh will do.. hopefully...
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Rippthrough - 08-02-2014
Well, if you ain't changing the gears, why even bother mucking about inside the box trying to use a selector drum?
Use the forks that are already and just run a converter on the outside of the box to change it from H-pattern to sequential.
You'll probably f*ck the synchro's anyway from the force/speed you try to change with a lever setup like that, but at least it's ten times easier to make and if the box dies you just bolt it on the next one...
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 08-02-2014
(08-02-2014, 12:43 AM)Rippthrough Wrote: Well, if you ain't changing the gears, why even bother mucking about inside the box trying to use a selector drum?
Use the forks that are already and just run a converter on the outside of the box to change it from H-pattern to sequential.
You'll probably f*ck the synchro's anyway from the force/speed you try to change with a lever setup like that, but at least it's ten times easier to make and if the box dies you just bolt it on the next one...
Its just a bit of fun to be had with a spare box.. there is one already on the engine.
How much are those converter things again?
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Rippthrough - 08-02-2014
Make one...
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 08-02-2014
(08-02-2014, 12:51 AM)Rippthrough Wrote: Make one...
Back in half an hour.. have to look shit up now
Damn you..----------------------------------
Nope.... Sticking to my guns. Happy times.
(If i blow a box.. No worries Danny2009 has a few) :ROFL:
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Rippthrough - 08-02-2014
Just a selector drum, ratchet and two cables.
You can even do it with just a pair of doubled up ratchets pulling on the cables, although harder to setup as you need them on springs then.
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Dean - 08-02-2014
Think we need to make the frame up, and get the engine running before thinking about a seggy box at the moment, as you want this built tested and on the road for pugfest in 5 months... uhhhhh lol
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Danny2009 - 08-02-2014
5 month! better get welder out then!
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 08-02-2014
(08-02-2014, 11:25 AM)Dean Wrote: Think we need to make the frame up, and get the engine running before thinking about a seggy box at the moment, as you want this built tested and on the road for pugfest in 5 months... uhhhhh lol
Fheck! ... Come over then! .. noob
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 08-02-2014
Laying out the frame,
Its going to be 1.6m at the widest point (tip of wheels)
Length is going to be about 2.3m From Front of wheels to back of back wheel..
but the front of the frame will protrude past the wheels.. by 300mm ish.
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Tom - 08-02-2014
But the big question is can you just left off quick and bang it into the next gear without using the clutch? Or do you NEED the dog something synchros to do that? This would strictly be sequential and you would still need to use the clutch as you do now?
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 08-02-2014
(08-02-2014, 03:30 PM)Tom Wrote: But the big question is can you just left off quick and bang it into the next gear without using the clutch? Or do you NEED the dog something synchros to do that? This would strictly be sequential and you would still need to use the clutch as you do now?
Need the dog gears for that, synchro gears have to.. sync up before the gear change is smooth. Dogs you can just bang it in.. in fact the faster you change the smoother it is
I was on a great website last night. i will try n find it...
Found it! http://www.carbibles.com/transmission_bible.html its 2/3rd the way down i think
306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Dean - 08-02-2014
James when have you booked holidays in for work? As in after April ish.
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 08-02-2014
(08-02-2014, 06:17 PM)Dean Wrote: James when have you booked holidays in for work? As in after April ish.
Nah I've got like 30 odd days to use lol. what days you wanting to go? Gimme the days you wanna go.. i can sharp book em off.
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Grant - 08-02-2014
Interesting read this
Make me a sequential box
:p
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 08-02-2014
(08-02-2014, 07:02 PM)Grant Wrote: Interesting read this
Make me a sequential box
:p
Seggy will be coming after the build sorry
.I'm going to make one for me.. test it for a month.
How i do it, Still unknown
What about a kit to bolt on to the gearbox in some way to convert?
Dont ask.
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RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Dean - 08-02-2014
and after you've tried yours for a month, i want one
RE: 306 XUD Trike / Attempt - Wor Jimmy - 08-02-2014
(08-02-2014, 07:59 PM)Dean Wrote: and after you've tried yours for a month, i want one
Nope.