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RE: S16Turbo, Gallardo calipers on the car!!!! - ozonehostile - 23-03-2013

(22-03-2013, 11:22 PM)darrenjlobb Wrote:
(20-03-2013, 01:34 PM)Ed Doe Wrote:
(20-03-2013, 01:05 AM)ozonehostile Wrote: what master cylinder will you be using for 10 pots?

surely itl be nothing apart from brakes off or brakes fully on, bet thatl take some getting used too haha

Quite the reverse. If you multiply the surface area of one end of a hydraulic circuit, you have to multiply the force applied at the other end by the same number. Hence why if you have a dt and upgrade to gti6 calipers without the master cylinder you have to push the pedal harder and it travels further....

You wouldnt have to push the pedal harder...it would be easier, just more travel...just like a lever, longer you make it easier it is, but more it moves.. smaller master cylinder just means more control, unless its to small in which case its just damn annoying, but certainly wouldnt get harder to push with more pots / bigger caliper pistons....

i dont think how i wrote the original comment makes it clear what i meant, i wasnt talking about having to push the pedal harder, more that with huge calipers and what i presume is still a gti master cylinder that the brake pedal will be more of an on/off switch

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - richard - 23-03-2013

(23-03-2013, 12:59 AM)sam Wrote: Agree with jonny to be honest itll ruin it, even though theyed look awseome on a euro style car!

are you always that not sarcartic here...?DodgyRofl

get some humor.. think outside the box. of course it won't be on pauls peug. but if it did...Big Grin

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - sam - 23-03-2013

(23-03-2013, 08:06 AM)richard Wrote:
(23-03-2013, 12:59 AM)sam Wrote: Agree with jonny to be honest itll ruin it, even though theyed look awseome on a euro style car!

are you always that not sarcartic here...?DodgyRofl

get some humor.. think outside the box. of course it won't be on pauls peug. but if it did...Big Grin

Oh I thought you were being serious haha

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 23-03-2013

Woehahahahha Sam & Jonny you guys need to stay of the crack! LMAO

I dont know how you get by ive got 10pots!

As said before the 17Zs are made for discsize 325-345, they utilise small size pistons.
The 17Z are commonly used in the VAG scene, ECS stage 5 kit uses the same caliper, lot used on Audis and R32s.
There wont be a much difference in pedalfeel/travel with the 4 pots brembos
You also have the 18Z, Richard has my ex 18Z calipers, from the outside theyre exactly the same only theyre made for bigger discs then 345mm and have bigger pistons.
The 17Z and 18Z brembo caliper really have the WOW factor since theyre freaking huge and put almost any other caliper to shame, since the normal small 4 pots dont get the titties hard..... and because i like hard titties im slapping these babies on Wink
BIG REDS from a 911 vs 17z/18Z.... you do the math, lets put their name to the test, lol Wink
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Today no work on the car, my mates not feeling well, so hopefully he gets by tomorrow and we can drop the engine and get to it!

RE: S16Turbo, Gallardo calipers on the car!!!! - Ed Doe - 23-03-2013

(23-03-2013, 06:05 AM)ozonehostile Wrote:
(22-03-2013, 11:22 PM)darrenjlobb Wrote:
(20-03-2013, 01:34 PM)Ed Doe Wrote: Quite the reverse. If you multiply the surface area of one end of a hydraulic circuit, you have to multiply the force applied at the other end by the same number. Hence why if you have a dt and upgrade to gti6 calipers without the master cylinder you have to push the pedal harder and it travels further....

You wouldnt have to push the pedal harder...it would be easier, just more travel...just like a lever, longer you make it easier it is, but more it moves.. smaller master cylinder just means more control, unless its to small in which case its just damn annoying, but certainly wouldnt get harder to push with more pots / bigger caliper pistons....

i dont think how i wrote the original comment makes it clear what i meant, i wasnt talking about having to push the pedal harder, more that with huge calipers and what i presume is still a gti master cylinder that the brake pedal will be more of an on/off switch

You would have to push it harder; you've significantly increased the piston surface area without increasing the master cylinder piston size. The reason you have more pedal travel is there is more hydraulic fluid in the circuit.

Ozone that's precisely what we're both agreeing it won't be; if you have small brakes with a large master cylinder, it'll be more like an on/off switch than these with a gti master cylinder.

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - ozonehostile - 23-03-2013

ahh right, i get you Smile

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 23-03-2013

Well, since my mate got fked by a donkey and couldnt come and help me... i decided to do some work and fiddle with the IC piping, one boostpipe is completely ready now for welding next week, otherone is almost done.

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Brakepads got in, hopefully the adapters for the calipers will be finished in a week orso, so we can fit them
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Car already had HIDs but with the awfull big starters, so i bought a new set with the small slim starters
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Hopefully we can do the engine tomorrow or monday , then bringing some stuff to get welded, and then hopefully we can start next weekend by installing the engine and fitting everything back Wink

S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - Jukie88 - 23-03-2013

(22-03-2013, 11:25 PM)richard Wrote: i'm making a set of unique wheels paul.. maybe something for you?
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http://www.volksforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112374&page=1&pp=20

I WANT THESE SO MUCH !!!!

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - richard - 23-03-2013

i can make them 4 you.. yes also in different bores.. fe 4x108.. also can make the 205 gti speedlines in 17 inch 3 piece

ask paul, i'm a little wheel whore

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 23-03-2013

Rich is a wheelslut, he can make you the sickest wheels ever....

Just like he did with my M3 Supercharged...

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - ozonehostile - 23-03-2013

ever thought about putting a set of morrettes on your monster?

would look absolutely sinister!

RE: S16Turbo, Gallardo calipers on the car!!!! - darrenjlobb - 23-03-2013

(23-03-2013, 08:57 AM)Ed Doe Wrote:
(23-03-2013, 06:05 AM)ozonehostile Wrote:
(22-03-2013, 11:22 PM)darrenjlobb Wrote: You wouldnt have to push the pedal harder...it would be easier, just more travel...just like a lever, longer you make it easier it is, but more it moves.. smaller master cylinder just means more control, unless its to small in which case its just damn annoying, but certainly wouldnt get harder to push with more pots / bigger caliper pistons....

i dont think how i wrote the original comment makes it clear what i meant, i wasnt talking about having to push the pedal harder, more that with huge calipers and what i presume is still a gti master cylinder that the brake pedal will be more of an on/off switch

You would have to push it harder; you've significantly increased the piston surface area without increasing the master cylinder piston size. The reason you have more pedal travel is there is more hydraulic fluid in the circuit.

Ozone that's precisely what we're both agreeing it won't be; if you have small brakes with a large master cylinder, it'll be more like an on/off switch than these with a gti master cylinder.

Lol you wont....if you increase the slave cylinder size (caliper) and keep the other end the same, you will push less hard but more travel as you having to move more fluid to move the caliper piston the same ammount...the fact your moving more fluid shows your moving a bigger piston, hence its easier to push...just like bike gearing, change down a gear, move it more , but its easier...

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 23-03-2013

(23-03-2013, 06:52 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: ever thought about putting a set of morrettes on your monster?

would look absolutely sinister!



I did, but i just cant stand the loose sidereapeter unit...Undecided

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - ozonehostile - 23-03-2013

(23-03-2013, 07:01 PM)306GT30 Wrote:
(23-03-2013, 06:52 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: ever thought about putting a set of morrettes on your monster?

would look absolutely sinister!



I did, but i just cant stand the loose sidereapeter unit...Undecided

yeah, ive had issues with mine already haha. to hopefully solve the issue ive screwed the indicator clip to the morette mask and will soon be adding a retaining spring for added security.
wouldnt want it to go flying off down the road in front of a cop again would i lmao

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 24-03-2013

LOL......

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 24-03-2013

Well thx to Simon... a nice new knob, i like fresh new knobs Smile
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Tomorrow engine out!!!!!!!

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - ozonehostile - 24-03-2013

you should get a 206 gti180 knob, all aluminium ftw! (really cold in the morning, burning hot in the summer)

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 24-03-2013

ive got that one already.... not my thing Wink

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - ozonehostile - 24-03-2013

(24-03-2013, 07:21 PM)306GT30 Wrote: ive got that one already.... not my thing Wink

if you dont want it il have it, been wanting one for the other 306 Smile

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - Eeyore - 24-03-2013

just read this from start to finish! Its extremly impressive and I cant wait to see it when you come over here! Must have a serious budget behind this and I think I can safely say its the dream of most of the people on here!

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 24-03-2013

thankyou.... it got out of hand really.... never had the dream to make a killer Peug... but i enjoy it very much, had a lot of newer and better and nicer cars.... but as said before i enjoy it very much ( havent even driven the damn 306! lol)

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - ozonehostile - 24-03-2013

(24-03-2013, 10:41 PM)306GT30 Wrote: thankyou.... it got out of hand really.... never had the dream to make a killer Peug... but i enjoy it very much, had a lot of newer and better and nicer cars.... but as said before i enjoy it very much ( havent even driven the damn 306! lol)

thats how it starts lol, i went from a lotus elise to a diesel 306 and havnt looked back since haha

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 24-03-2013

I from a pair of M5s, some big audis, an big E60... to a French tincan... lmao

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 25-03-2013

Well the enginecrane wasnt available today :S

So i removed the Brembos that are sold to Specter and Marvin and me decided to finish all intercoolerpiping so i can get them welded this week.

Plus we fabricated some nice alloy supportingbrackets for the intercooler and made a nice alloy support for the boostpipe.
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And we pushed the beast out of its place
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RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - Tom - 25-03-2013

Your dawgs wandering wtf is he doing up there!

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - ginge191 - 25-03-2013

i can not wait to see some videos of this running!!

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - darrenjlobb - 25-03-2013

Again the straw and chronic boost sat on top is just so much win, brings back so many good memories!!!

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - ozonehostile - 25-03-2013

I got in shit at work today for looking at pics of this car when there were things stacking up on the shelf waiting for me to test them. Totally worth It haha

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 25-03-2013

hahah car is dirtier then fck.... lol...

As soon as the weather clears up a bit, im pushing her outside and give her a small cleaning.

Barnbuilds FTMW!!!

RE: S16Turbo, 4pots are for pussies - 306GT30 - 26-03-2013

Gave here a quick shower... ohboy shes dirty!!!!!!

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Inside my wheel fell off, tore the wheelbearing in two :S French piece of shit