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RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - silverzx - 22-07-2015
Good effort Mr.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Dum-Dum - 22-07-2015
(22-07-2015, 02:23 PM)silverzx Wrote: Good effort Mr.Cheers mate.
More has turned up in the post now, got some banjo bolts for the turbo and the fuel pump and some line adapters as well as awesome colored fuel line and the bit of ally that is gonna become my inlet plenum. Still trying to rain though sadly.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - procta - 22-07-2015
I will be keeping my eye on this! be interesting in how it will turn out!
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Dum-Dum - 23-07-2015
Done a little more this afternoon, drive shafts are in, chassis is modified for the FMIC which now comfortably fits, PAS pump bracket modified and almost fitted (need the drill to recharge), swapped the earth wiring over to something more substantial and have been playing with water pipes trying to get those sorted.
Small issue that i hooked up the glow plug relay to the live ans half hour later the wiring caught fire with a bit of a woosh as I was under the car with the hammer. I think the positive terminal of the relay dropped onto an injector pipe and earthed the feed wire. Fortunately I got to it and put it out sharpish. I have turned the ignition on and there's no funny lights, only issue there is the temp sits well off the top of the gauge so I guess that's either getting 12v when it shouldn't or earth when it shouldn't
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Piggy - 23-07-2015
Temp gauge is earth
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Dum-Dum - 23-07-2015
(23-07-2015, 06:32 PM)Piggy Wrote: Temp gauge is earth
Should be earth is going daft cos it's earthed?
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - procta - 23-07-2015
Dum Dum, are these engines physically smaller than the standard 1.9 engines?
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - bashbarnard - 23-07-2015
Yeah procta a lot. They came in the metro as well. You should get rid of the vvc and go derv. You know its the right thing to do.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - procta - 23-07-2015
(23-07-2015, 07:47 PM)bashbarnard Wrote: Yeah procta a lot. They came in the metro as well. You should get rid of the vvc and go derv. You know its the right thing to do.
dervs are rare to find in metros sadly bash, They did a 1.4 and the 1.5, but the 1.4 kept killing Head gaskets, The 1.5 got a bigger rad, as they used the standard metro rad for the 1.4 ( I have the 1.5 Derv rad in my car)
But here is the twist, I might have the diesel info for these engines, if you want to know anything dum dum, as Rover did a work shop for the diesel metro,
I can check if you want? I might even have it on a CD too.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - lolsteve - 24-07-2015
Well this is interesting. Don't just half arse it all though!
Will the extra weight of the 306 shell not strain the engine a bit though? especially if it's a dumdum 'slap a turdo on cus she'll b rit ' kind of job
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Dum-Dum - 24-07-2015
Ooh now that would be interesting and yes the engine is much smaller than the XUD.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - procta - 24-07-2015
(24-07-2015, 07:29 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Ooh now that would be interesting and yes the engine is much smaller than the XUD.
Do you want to me to have a look, to what info I have for this engine dum dum? I may have a CD or maybe an old manual too!
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Dum-Dum - 24-07-2015
Yeah if you don't mind.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - procta - 24-07-2015
(24-07-2015, 12:59 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Yeah if you don't mind.
ok I will see what I have,
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - stevieg - 24-07-2015
once again there is only one word, nutcase
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Matt - 24-07-2015
genuinely looking forward to seeing this finished.
please finish this one haha
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Piggy - 25-07-2015
(24-07-2015, 07:29 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Ooh now that would be interesting and yes the engine is much smaller than the XUD.
Not much lighter though!!
126kg vs 140kg
And the 126kg is without turbo etc!
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Dum-Dum - 25-07-2015
(25-07-2015, 06:53 AM)Piggy Wrote:(24-07-2015, 07:29 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Ooh now that would be interesting and yes the engine is much smaller than the XUD.
Not much lighter though!!
126kg vs 140kg
And the 126kg is without turbo etc!
Got to be lighter than that for the TUD5, defo under 100kg
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Dturbobooost - 25-07-2015
Interesting project fair play to you for being different ☺
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Piggy - 25-07-2015
Nah bud its 126kg. For sure. Factory figures
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - welshpug - 25-07-2015
Heavy Fookers the iron TU's are, doesn't help having a hefty injection pump on it.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Danny Wideboy - 25-07-2015
Got free time and many tools available tomorrow if you want a hand dude, be interested to see this happen.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Dum-Dum - 25-07-2015
(25-07-2015, 12:54 PM)Dturbobooost Wrote: Interesting project fair play to you for being different ☺Cheers Mate
(25-07-2015, 02:56 PM)Piggy Wrote: Nah bud its 126kg. For sure. Factory figuresNah I can lift it, it cant be 126kg.
(25-07-2015, 03:01 PM)welshpug Wrote: Heavy Fookers the iron TU's are, doesn't help having a hefty injection pump on it.Yeah definitely heavier than the 1.4 petrol that was in there but not 126kg
(25-07-2015, 07:29 PM)Danny Wideboy Wrote: Got free time and many tools available tomorrow if you want a hand dude, be interested to see this happen.Nah gonna piss down tomorrow and I don't like it enough to get a soaking especially as there isn't a huge amount I can do till I get come extra bits of hose in the right size to replace the oddly sized bit I tore.
Had another afternoon working on it after going out this morning then spending far too long doing a slow cooked bacon snadwich for lunch. Decided to strip all the stuff that isn't used out of the loom
That turned out to be quite a bit of wiring that I'm not using. There's more to go back in like a glow plug relay and fan wiring which I want done separately plus all the gauges but that'll do for now.
After finishing drilling holes for the PAS pump I cleaned up all of the surface rust.
I then slapped some hammerite about and bolted the power steering pump in after bending the pipe straight with a blow torch. Worked out where the resovior is going too, up by the brake master cylinder to give it enough height that I won't get an air lock. Checked that the pump worked after trimming out the wiring and it does. Gave the lucas pump a tune (hence the carrier bag over the alternator and rag), cap unscrewed nice and easy and couldn't believe my luck when the allen key hole was right there in front of me. Gave it about 15 degrees.
I ran my shiny fuel lines under the car, 10mm feed and standard size return in the lovely high vis stuff with about a hundred cable ties to keep it all up.
And here she is as she stands tonight. Had the rad on and looked at hoses some more and have a plan of action for those. Also think If I trim a little more off the intercooler I might be able to bolt it straight to the slam panel
So what's left:
Water hose from water pump inlet to stat housing
Matrix hoses
PAS res hose
Starter motor
Do up some suspension bolts
Drive shaft bolts
Actually attach the fuel lines to the pump
Fit rad, fan and FMIC
Add wiring for starter motor
Finish wiring for PAS pump and engine
Washer bottle fitting to battery tray and wiring
refit front end
top up with fluids and some fuel
and the bit I'm dreading, knock up an exhaust!
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Piggy - 25-07-2015
Argue all ya want. Its 126kg. It will be slow. Then ragged to death. And die.
And then you'll xud9 it
Hehe
Still got me watching this space mind
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Paul_13 - 26-07-2015
How strong are the gearboxes compared to a BE3?
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - bashbarnard - 26-07-2015
The tu boxs are like cheese. Saying that ive blown up a be box and never a tu
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Toms306 - 26-07-2015
I killed a couple of TU boxes on 1.4s... I can't see them coping well with diesel torque...or Chris' driving.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Paul_13 - 26-07-2015
What I was wondering, how well will it cope in a 306?
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - welshpug - 26-07-2015
not very, theres a good reason why they used a tu-be4 in the xsara picasso and later 307's and the vans.
RE: 306 TUD5 Turbo Project. - Yes, TUD5 in a 306!!! - Sambarker - 26-07-2015
1.6 hdi after the tud blows up