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RE: Fixing a rust patch - lolsteve - 10-02-2014
I'll have another crack at the sanding tomorrow see if I can get so more of the area shiney
And no never welded before in my life, now i remembered though would I be able to borrow your welder to weld in a cat on my decat pipe?
RE: Fixing a rust patch - karl1989 - 10-02-2014
Thought you couldn't weld lol. Bring it to the unit I have a grinder with a wire head get that rust out. I need some gas if you can get some co2 let me know as I can't find any anywere
RE: Fixing a rust patch - lolsteve - 11-02-2014
I can't but youtube tutorials should make welding an exhaust would be easier than the roof job
I just dont see how it could be welded without cutting everything apart which tbh is it worth the effort?How long would one suspect the kurust method hold back the rust for? 6 months? a year? 2?
Halfords for the gas? I got a trade card so might knock a few pence off
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Danny2009 - 11-02-2014
Halfords do gas but it's only little cannisters
If headlinings already out cut the rot out from above and weld a plate in.
I have a welder and compressor so could paint it too drop me a pm I you like save clogging the thread
RE: Fixing a rust patch - karl1989 - 11-02-2014
Screen got to come out to weld there be safer
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Danny2009 - 11-02-2014
Why would screen have to come out? It's not all way up to the screen it needs cutting out to
RE: Fixing a rust patch - karl1989 - 11-02-2014
It's very close
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Grant - 11-02-2014
(11-02-2014, 12:12 PM)Danny2009 Wrote: Why would screen have to come out? It's not all way up to the screen it needs cutting out to
Because it needs to be recovered back further still. From Steve's photo there is still paint that needs removing. Could go all the way...
RE: Fixing a rust patch - lolsteve - 11-02-2014
Well a chunk got cut out today with the limiting factors being the windscreen and the shell bracing(?) that runs underneath , what rustys bit was left were grinded until shiney and everything coated in kurust for good measure.
A plate got chemical metal bonded in which seems to be doing a bang on job and a big thanks to Karl for all his help today, without him the hole could well have ended up just being fillered over by me panicking about getting it done before the rust gets worse
Completely forgot to get some more photos but it's currently got some filler on that just needs anther couple of goes at to get it perfect before spraying up, just a shame the rain/snow keeps making an appearance
Also think I've figured out how this happened in the first place, the old aerial base has a rubber seal that goes through the larger hole. this seal has been crushed and not gone through the hole so water has been trapped or slowly let into the area eating the metal.
RE: Fixing a rust patch - welshpug - 12-02-2014
you haven't removed all the rotten metal properly, you wont have a chance in hell of getting a clean weld to the oxidised stuff, chop more out!
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Rippthrough - 12-02-2014
Yep, bit more needed there yet, it should be spotless!
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Midnightclub - 12-02-2014
Uh guys, did you miss this bit?
"A plate got chemical metal bonded in"
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Rippthrough - 12-02-2014
Over the rust?
RE: Fixing a rust patch - lolsteve - 12-02-2014
The rusty part was grinded back til it was shiney as it could be. As said forgot to get photos, but promise it was grinded back more than it was in the photo
And yes it was chemical metal'd in solid as a rock, welding would have been too awkward for this place.
Rather annoyed at the rain now stopping me from getting this finished and worried if the filler gets wet it'll soak the rain through back into the metal again. Tried covering it but the wind keeps blowing anything off
so for now it's got some masking tape covering it
RE: Fixing a rust patch - karl1989 - 12-02-2014
We was going to cut more back but there is the roof support in the way so couldn't get a bigger plate under to cover the hole without chopping in side. Would have been tricky but it's more of a pro job to do that work
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Danny2009 - 12-02-2014
If you had welded a plate In you wouldn't have had the issue of that brace
RE: Fixing a rust patch - karl1989 - 12-02-2014
That true but the windscreen has to come out. Can get some one to do it for £40 and put it back in but has to be booked in
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Danny2009 - 12-02-2014
Looks 100x better than it did no more holes
RE: Fixing a rust patch - karl1989 - 12-02-2014
Holes Nicely lined up now
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Eeyore - 12-02-2014
you were a the stage of...
"look at the rust on that car. he obviously doesnt care for it."
youre now at the stage of...
"Look at the repair job on that car. at least he has tried".
RE: Fixing a rust patch - ADV_93 - 13-02-2014
>find rust
>scrap car
RE: Fixing a rust patch - karl1989 - 13-02-2014
(13-02-2014, 02:53 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: >find rustI know that feeling but my xr3 has to be saved
>scrap car
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Toms306 - 13-02-2014
(13-02-2014, 02:53 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: >find rust
>scrap car
Coming from a phase 1 owner!?
RE: Fixing a rust patch - lolsteve - 13-02-2014
It's kind of looking better, hopefully will do when all put together just need to blend the paint well so it doesn't stand out as a big sprayed patch
Got some tarp today at the poundshop so it's at least protected now from the elements
(12-02-2014, 10:33 PM)SRowell Wrote: you were a the stage of...Tried and hopefully not failed
"look at the rust on that car. he obviously doesnt care for it."
youre now at the stage of...
"Look at the repair job on that car. at least he has tried".
(13-02-2014, 02:53 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: >find rustNot yet..when the engine dies thats when it goes
>scrap car
RE: Fixing a rust patch - procta - 13-02-2014
I didn't think these suffered rot from around there, id have just done away with the Ariel and put an internal one in, under the head lining.
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Grant - 14-02-2014
(13-02-2014, 10:14 PM)procta Wrote: I didn't think these suffered rot from around there, id have just done away with the Ariel and put an internal one in, under the head lining.
Good shout tbh.
I reckon it will be back to haunt you though. Still needed a but chopping out IMO.
RE: Fixing a rust patch - lolsteve - 14-02-2014
(13-02-2014, 10:14 PM)procta Wrote: I didn't think these suffered rot from around there, id have just done away with the Ariel and put an internal one in, under the head lining.They normally dont, but the aerial base wasn't put in properly when it left factory i think so it collected water under there and rotted from inside out
Just feel the smooth look isn't for me, just want it looking standard for if I ever need to sell on so dont have to explain why there isn't an aerial
(14-02-2014, 09:26 AM)Grant Wrote:Maybe so but if it does come back in a year or so I'll hopefully have a decent paying job by then to actually pay someone to do it properly or have a garage which I can spend some time working on it(13-02-2014, 10:14 PM)procta Wrote: I didn't think these suffered rot from around there, id have just done away with the Ariel and put an internal one in, under the head lining.
Good shout tbh.
I reckon it will be back to haunt you though. Still needed a but chopping out IMO.
Just sprayed some paint on after leaving the primer to dry overnight and a quick 600grit rub to help the paint bond. Despite it being a halfords blend it looks like it matches pretty well
RE: Fixing a rust patch - lolsteve - 14-02-2014
Some snaps of the painting
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Carlos182 - 14-02-2014
Good luck trying to blend that. Surely you'll be left with a lip where you've masked off?
It's possible, but I'll be harder!
RE: Fixing a rust patch - Danny2009 - 14-02-2014
Yea your not supposed to spray all way up to the masking tape mate makes life harder
But then again it needs flatting down that orange peel is horrific