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RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Piggy - 29-07-2013
(29-07-2013, 11:54 AM)Rippthrough Wrote: Definately got the old metal casing out from the old bushes yes?
If so, maybe your wishbone casings are a slightly different size to OE ones?
yeah defo mate, the bushes slide in loverly with grease, without much effort, into the wishbone casing.
Its just when the metal pin/tube goes in, they go all double chinned!
I have been doing some searching round, found a couple that have cut them slightly....
not sure though
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Poodle - 29-07-2013
That looks familiar, I think those particular bushes are made just a bit too big.
As it happens Ppc did an article recently on bushes, which educated me on how they should work and subsequently convinced me to make my own set of front bushes lol.
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Rippthrough - 29-07-2013
Well, rule of thumb, you should be able to move a correctly polybushed wishbone easily with one finger, it should drop straight down under it's own weight as soon as you release it, no snags, no slowing down.
I bet yours won't do that?
Personally I'd get in touch with the makers.
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Piggy - 29-07-2013
er no.
sits up rather happily!!
bugger it, cut ne losses and start trimming and refitting till its right
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Piggy - 29-07-2013
emailed Powerflex
very quick reply, basically saying that they have never had a problem before.
I hate it when companies say that.....for two reasons:
1) I dont care if I am the first, I have a problem with a product, so sort it
2) every problem starts with the first complaint!
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - ConorTRG - 29-07-2013
You'd probably be safer trimming them or whatever needs done to get them sitting properly, kind of defeats the purpose though lol
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Piggy - 29-07-2013
Yeah I have trimmed the inner edge, and that helped, but I think the bit that really is too big is the outer edge, the bit thats actually mushrooming.
I measure the subframe gap, 62mm ish. The bushes in the arm before being rammed in the subframe come to 65.5mm!
thats a lot of tough polybush to squish!
My worst case scenario is if I take a bit too much off, just ram a big ass washer in there
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Connor - 29-07-2013
You're certainly not the first to have this problem, although yours as you say, look slot more "squished" in than mine did
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Piggy - 29-07-2013
another idea I have had is to freeze the metal sleeve to shrink it a bit.
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Piggy - 30-07-2013
The guy at powerflex is being quite helpful, kudos where kudos is needed.
He has asked for all dimensions to compare with that they have.
I have also provided him, upon his request, a link to this forum as I had mentioned others saying its a common squeeze to get them in and some had needed to cut them.
He said they want to fix the issues for all, so good good!
Maybe powerflex will have a profile on here for support soon!
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Connor - 30-07-2013
Fair play, just as in the meyle thread, its things like this that helps a company's image where it counts
Re: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - SKoob - 04-08-2013
I had the same issues with mine, ended up levering the wishbones in with a big screwdriver with the bushes fitted.
Think I'll give powerflex a call and see if they'll provide me updated replacements so they actually fit properly 
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Piggy - 04-08-2013
Had to trim mine in the end.
I cut a slither off each half bush down the length of it, allowing the bush to expand inside the wishbone casing rather than mushroom out. worked beautifully..
but will update with what powerflex say
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Rippthrough - 04-08-2013
Does the wishbone drop freely under it's own weight now if you let it go?
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - puglove - 04-08-2013
I fitted these some time ago, what a PITA, trimmed and pressed in using a vice in the end
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Piggy - 04-08-2013
(04-08-2013, 03:48 PM)Rippthrough Wrote: Does the wishbone drop freely under it's own weight now if you let it go?
almost, very slowly. But feel 100times better. Were tight to get it, but sit in there sweet now!
RE: fitting powerflex polybushes....HELP! advice please - Piggy - 05-08-2013
Had a very interesting email this morning from Powerflex:
"Hi James,
Just to keep you updated, we received a new arm from Peugeot this morning to take dimensions from. It is clear that our bush is wrong and therefore a new design is required.
We have created a new design and we will be looking at starting the tooling tomorrow.
Once the tooling is finished we will be able to make the first samples, inspect them and test fit them.
As soon as I have a firm date of when we’ll be able to despatch the new parts I will come back to you."
very impressed.
Will keep ya'll updated
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Tom - 05-08-2013
Hell up, well done them
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Mattcheese31 - 05-08-2013
result . . .
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Piggy - 05-08-2013
all in about a week since I emailed about the issues. fair play
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - puglove - 05-08-2013
could you send me the email address as I will be pursuing this myself once you are sorted
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Grant - 05-08-2013
Thats a result there. Again, its good to see companies taking customers seriously still.
Good results there, could prove useful for quite a few people!
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Niall - 05-08-2013
Again, very good service there! Im impressed!
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Poodle - 05-08-2013
Good result! Seems powerflex are still on top of the market for good reason lol.
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Jenkosowls - 05-08-2013
Trouble is I'd imagine there are still going to be 100s of wrong bushes out there sat in a shelf waiting to be sold by resellers
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Niall - 05-08-2013
(05-08-2013, 06:03 PM)Jenkosowls Wrote: Trouble is I'd imagine there are still going to be 100s of wrong bushes out there sat in a shelf waiting to be sold by resellers
Yep but these things happen to any manufacturer. The big thing is how they deal with it! Look at how they dealt with the failing bottom engine mounts. I also thought that was very well handled.
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Jonny81191 - 05-08-2013
Why not ask them if they'll do a one time forum discount or a group buy?
I quite fancy a set..
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Piggy - 05-08-2013
I will enquire about how others to go about getting replacements and maybe discount for new sets
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - Rippthrough - 05-08-2013
(05-08-2013, 05:26 PM)Poodle Wrote: Good result! Seems powerflex are still on top of the market for good reason lol.
Top of the market is SuperPro, has been for a long time, for good reason.
RE: Powerflex wishbone bushes...Email from Powerflex! - miles - 06-08-2013
Std bush's flex less, even in the 205 world std OE bush's outlast any other and perform better. Never seen the appeal personally due to the few sets I remove