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106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 02-03-2013
Well just thinking ahead an im considering looking at getting a 106 1.5 for a project but with the price of fuel at the min 147 at the min for diesel, Im loving the 306 for being on pure veg and only costing 96p a liter, so im sure ive seen some one on here with a bosch on there nad.
So questions are is it just a straight swap and away you go or dose it have to be modifed to fit? if so what needs doing to make it fit?
Any thing else i need to no about fitting a pump to one?
106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - kentiiboii - 02-03-2013
Samass has Bosch.
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - bigcheez2k3 - 02-03-2013
Samass has a 306 Bosch on his that he's pikey'd on there I believe.
They come with Bosch as standard on some as mine had it and I used to run veg too. So in answer to your question, providing you get a 106 pump, it should be a straight swap. Easier to just get one with a Bosch first though.
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Matt - 02-03-2013
Touchy subject for Sam,
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - samass - 02-03-2013
Yeah, touchy subject. f*cking thing.
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 02-03-2013
(02-03-2013, 11:32 AM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote: Samass has a 306 Bosch on his that he's pikey'd on there I believe.
They come with Bosch as standard on some as mine had it and I used to run veg too. So in answer to your question, providing you get a 106 pump, it should be a straight swap. Easier to just get one with a Bosch first though.
Oh didnt no they did a bosch pump as standard on the 106?
(02-03-2013, 11:36 AM)sammykins Wrote: Yeah, touchy subject. f*cking thing.
Why what wrong with it?? how did you get the pump to fit on yours?
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - samass - 02-03-2013
With a lot of guess work, grinding, swearing, timing, re timing, re timing again, more swearing, more grinding, more timing, more swear, lots of tubing, and then a hole in my rad. It's a MASSIVE ballache. Just search eBay for a 106/saxo na Bosch and use that
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 02-03-2013
(02-03-2013, 11:59 AM)sammykins Wrote: With a lot of guess work, grinding, swearing, timing, re timing, re timing again, more swearing, more grinding, more timing, more swear, lots of tubing, and then a hole in my rad. It's a MASSIVE ballache. Just search eBay for a 106/saxo na Bosch and use that
Yer just been looking didnt realize they come with a lucus and a bosch pump, dose any one no if it was a certain year that they came with bosch (like early 306's) or was it just what ever they felt like?
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - samass - 02-03-2013
The really early ones I think, but nothing definite. Just browse eBay, they come up from time to time
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 02-03-2013
(02-03-2013, 12:12 PM)sammykins Wrote: The really early ones I think, but nothing definite. Just browse eBay, they come up from time to time
Ok thanks for info
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Eeyore - 02-03-2013
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAXO-106-1-5-DIESEL-BOSCH-FUEL-PUMP-82000-MILES-DRIVEN-TESTED-100-WORKING-GOOD-/190804366250?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c6cd393aa
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - samass - 02-03-2013
That's an expensive one...
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - bigcheez2k3 - 02-03-2013
Mine was a '98 R reg and had a Bosch. If you look on 106Owners there is a thread that has pics to help you tell the difference, just have to get past all the show cages and text speak
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 02-03-2013
(02-03-2013, 12:52 PM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote: Mine was a '98 R reg and had a Bosch. If you look on 106Owners there is a thread that has pics to help you tell the difference, just have to get past all the show cages and text speak
link?
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - bigcheez2k3 - 02-03-2013
(02-03-2013, 01:00 PM)Chris_90 Wrote:(02-03-2013, 12:52 PM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote: Mine was a '98 R reg and had a Bosch. If you look on 106Owners there is a thread that has pics to help you tell the difference, just have to get past all the show cages and text speak
link?
Just have a search on there, don't have a link here.
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 02-03-2013
(02-03-2013, 01:23 PM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote:(02-03-2013, 01:00 PM)Chris_90 Wrote:(02-03-2013, 12:52 PM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote: Mine was a '98 R reg and had a Bosch. If you look on 106Owners there is a thread that has pics to help you tell the difference, just have to get past all the show cages and text speak
link?
Just have a search on there, don't have a link here.
ok mate thanks
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Piggy - 02-03-2013
they rare and expensive generally much more than 306 ones...
you will find lot of the late saxos also had the bosch fitted
fyi...drop a xud in...thats my plan with my mrs 106
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - maxlee - 03-03-2013
i get 200 miles to £20 in my 1.5d 106 with lucas pump at that mpg don't see the point in trying to run in on cooking oil they cheap as fook to run about in also mines on 231k
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 03-03-2013
(02-03-2013, 06:40 PM)Piggy1987 Wrote: they rare and expensive generally much more than 306 ones...
you will find lot of the late saxos also had the bosch fitted
fyi...drop a xud in...thats my plan with my mrs 106
Thats my plan if every thing gose well xud'ed 106
(03-03-2013, 08:42 AM)maxlee Wrote: i get 200 miles to £20 in my 1.5d 106 with lucas pump at that mpg don't see the point in trying to run in on cooking oil they cheap as fook to run about in also mines on 231k
And yer my last one used to do 52mpg around town stop start but if you can save more money why not?? the more money i save the more money that gose towards mods
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - ginge191 - 03-03-2013
What about a bosch from a 1.8 XU NAD? runs fine on veg and possibly an easier fit than the other common bosch like sam used
106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - kentiiboii - 03-03-2013
Chris. Went looms on Wednesday and there was a 106 with Bosch pump already in. It was right at the back towards the car park.
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - GP123 - 03-03-2013
Out of interest mate where do you get the veg oil for 96p a litre? is it straight off the shelf?
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 03-03-2013
(03-03-2013, 11:15 AM)GP123 Wrote: Out of interest mate where do you get the veg oil for 96p a litre? is it straight off the shelf?
from bookers
(03-03-2013, 10:21 AM)kentiiboii Wrote: Chris. Went looms on Wednesday and there was a 106 with Bosch pump already in. It was right at the back towards the car park.
Thanks mate seen a few 106's there but not in a rush for a pump cos havent got a 106 to put it on lol
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Piggy - 03-03-2013
I dont quite understand the whole....
"it does loads MPG so why run it on veg oil"
Have you seen the price of diesel?!
If a car does MORE MPG then its MORE worthwhile running it on alternate fuels...
If a 106 can do 60mpg...then you run it on veg...I can get it around the 70p mark...that effectively is 120mpg! win!
If a car does 10mpg....half price fuel = 20mpg...still sucks!
Used to be part of a garage fitting LPG systems...did a lot of big v8s, turbos etc obviously...but the smart ones were in cars like the 1.2 16v Honda Jazz, it was doing 68mpg...LPG being 45-50p a litre...you do the math! mega cheap motoring
What I am really curious about is what MPG a mildly tuned xud turbo would do in a featherweight 106.
If mine does 45mpg with lots on boost in my 306, heavy 5dr with eleccy stuff and big sub on the boot...surely be ace in a paper thin 106??
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 03-03-2013
(03-03-2013, 04:25 PM)Piggy1987 Wrote: I dont quite understand the whole....
"it does loads MPG so why run it on veg oil"
Have you seen the price of diesel?!
If a car does MORE MPG then its MORE worthwhile running it on alternate fuels...
If a 106 can do 60mpg...then you run it on veg...I can get it around the 70p mark...that effectively is 120mpg! win!
If a car does 10mpg....half price fuel = 20mpg...still sucks!
Used to be part of a garage fitting LPG systems...did a lot of big v8s, turbos etc obviously...but the smart ones were in cars like the 1.2 16v Honda Jazz, it was doing 68mpg...LPG being 45-50p a litre...you do the math! mega cheap motoring
What I am really curious about is what MPG a mildly tuned xud turbo would do in a featherweight 106.
If mine does 45mpg with lots on boost in my 306, heavy 5dr with eleccy stuff and big sub on the boot...surely be ace in a paper thin 106??
I agree with what you say! no matter how many mpg's you get still worth looking in to makeing it even cheaper to run all tho i pay 96p a liter for veg not 70p were you getting that from or is it waste?
And i thought that to about the xud in the 106 all though i carnt see there being a massive difference maybe 50-55mpg?
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Piggy - 03-03-2013
duno...soon see!
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - maxlee - 03-03-2013
i just for all the trouble etc is it worth the saving?? fuel filters etc? (i'm not to clued up just asking)
i to have wondered what a xud in a 106 would do as like you say would have to do less work as less weight
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - bigcheez2k3 - 03-03-2013
Only way you'd get get better than the TUD5 mpg would be to stick a NA XUD in there I think. Yes the DT engine wouldn't have to do much work but don't see it getting better than the NA 1.5.
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Piggy - 03-03-2013
yeah but same mpg but for huge increase in power/torque!!
RE: 106 1.5 NAD Bosch pump? - Chris_90 - 04-03-2013
(03-03-2013, 08:52 PM)maxlee Wrote: i just for all the trouble etc is it worth the saving?? fuel filters etc? (i'm not to clued up just asking)
i to have wondered what a xud in a 106 would do as like you say would have to do less work as less weight
when your running brand new veg oil dont have to change it as much as if you was on waste, plus fuel filters are only like £3 so not like it cost alot every 3,000 miles